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li1_getoo l33t
Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Posts: 661 Location: Queens , NY
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:14 pm Post subject: switchin from xfree to xorg |
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hehehe i made the mistake and switched , now etc-update got over 257 files to update .. they all need to be replaced [1] .... anyway i can speed this up ? |
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30726 Veteran
Joined: 24 Sep 2003 Posts: 1501
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Not really. -5 will overwrite without asking, but doing that with over 200 files is risky and will most certainly break shit. |
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Earthwings Bodhisattva
Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 7753 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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Have a look at the beginning to see if important ones are going to be replaced and update them by hand till the list contains only config fails that can safely be overwritten. Then "-5" to have them automatically replaced.
I switched to xorg, too, and it was in no way a mistake |
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Insanity5902 Veteran
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 1228 Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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yeah do a etc-update, the config files it are replacing need to be replaced. I used the -5 and no problems what-so-ever. xorg will even use your XF86config, if you have made a xorg-conf. There are a few things in the xfree config that it doesn't like so you might have to do a few startx commands to , for lack of a better term, debug your config.
I switch and I love it, probably kind of the placebo effect but I think it is a faster. _________________ Join the adopt an unanswered post initiative today |
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Zviratko Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 106 Location: Prague, Czech Republic
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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most files it wants to update are static - don't care about them. It replaces a few config files you might have touched (like xtermrc and xdm.conf etc.), but I also did "-5" and lost nothing (well, some fonts...) |
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li1_getoo l33t
Joined: 20 Oct 2002 Posts: 661 Location: Queens , NY
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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i shouldve done -5 but i guess i am to late , i did them all one by one |
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John5788 Advocate
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 2140 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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i got lazy and did a -5. everything still works perfectly. _________________ John5788 |
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KingTaco Developer
Joined: 22 Aug 2003 Posts: 207 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Paranoid Apprentice
Joined: 07 Jan 2004 Posts: 290 Location: Portland, ME
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Earthwings wrote: | I switched to xorg, too, and it was in no way a mistake |
Been reading alot of posts about xorg but I'm still a little hesitant to make the switch......seems like it has some problems but I guess I won't know until trying it _________________ A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on.
William S. Burroughs |
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Earthwings Bodhisattva
Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 7753 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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I switched to it because I was running xfree-4.3 and the support for my ATI Radeon 7500 Mobile was rather bad. xorg is a big improvement for this (xfree-4.4-rc2 would be similar, I believe) and the update went really smooth. However, it can be a hassle for another system. What I did before and think is quite important is to make a binary of your currently running X-server (quickpkg xfree) so one is able to switch back easily if something goes wrong. |
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stateq2 Apprentice
Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 242 Location: us
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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John5788 wrote: | i got lazy and did a -5. everything still works perfectly. |
ditto _________________ unite |
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Paranoid Apprentice
Joined: 07 Jan 2004 Posts: 290 Location: Portland, ME
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to give it a try, lately I seem to have an insatiable urge to try anything new or experimental. Just need to do a little more research on it so I'm prepared.....and make some backups _________________ A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on.
William S. Burroughs |
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John5788 Advocate
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 2140 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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switch now! itll be painless now than maybe later in the future because Xorg and Xfree86 4.4 are almost the same thing but with different licenses. _________________ John5788 |
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echo6 Guru
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 587
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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This may sound silly, but how is it used practically instead of xfree? Is it as easy as emergeing it and launching startx ?? |
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John5788 Advocate
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 2140 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:49 am Post subject: |
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yeah, startx is the command.
xorgconfig is equivalent to xf86config _________________ John5788 |
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Insanity5902 Veteran
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 1228 Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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John5788 Advocate
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 2140 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:16 am Post subject: |
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thats the file in /etc/X11/ _________________ John5788 |
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raylpc Guru
Joined: 07 Aug 2003 Posts: 310 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:05 am Post subject: |
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Backing up your /etc directory is a good idea. It's pretty small. Just do a cp -a /etc ~/etc as root. |
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echo6 Guru
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 587
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Very painless switch
Code: | cp -v /etc/X11/XF86* ~/configs
emerge -C xft
emerge -b xorg-x11
etc-update -5
startx |
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petrjanda Veteran
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 1557 Location: Brno, Czech Republic
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Interestingly I had no config files to update |
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theBlackDragon l33t
Joined: 23 Nov 2002 Posts: 768 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Ehrm, I updated them all by hand too...
The only annoying thing is that some ebuilds want to merge xfree again... The E17 ones (ecore and evas) to name some, emerging with nodeps went without a hitch though _________________ Fvwm|Fvwm forum |
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echo6 Guru
Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 587
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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petrjanda wrote: | Interestingly I had no config files to update |
iirc most were font configs, perhaps you didn't have additional fonts installed etc. I've noticed a great speed improvement |
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Insanity5902 Veteran
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 1228 Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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theBlackDragon wrote: | Ehrm, I updated them all by hand too...
The only annoying thing is that some ebuilds want to merge xfree again... The E17 ones (ecore and evas) to name some, emerging with nodeps went without a hitch though |
You can inject the xfree package and that might work. You could also try added -xfree to your USE flags, or try edited the ebuild.
I know the nvidia-glx also says it needs xfree in its ebuild ... _________________ Join the adopt an unanswered post initiative today |
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pathose Retired Dev
Joined: 08 Nov 2003 Posts: 35 Location: Ohio, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I know the nvidia-glx also says it needs xfree in its ebuild ... |
Is there an X virtual package that can be used in these troublesome ebuilds? That would make the most sense. |
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Earthwings Bodhisattva
Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 7753 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/17070 wrote: |
Just to clear things up, while lots of fixes are being made regarding
dependencies on virtual/x11 and x11-base/xfree:
virtual/x11 means a package that contains all necessary libraries,
headers, build tools (imake, etc.) and other miscellaneous files to
enable any external application requiring the oh-so-vague "X" to build
and run.
This meaning may change in the future as some things grow more
modularized, but that's where it stands now.
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