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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:14 pm    Post subject: switchin from xfree to xorg Reply with quote

hehehe i made the mistake and switched , now etc-update got over 257 files to update .. they all need to be replaced [1] .... anyway i can speed this up ?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really. -5 will overwrite without asking, but doing that with over 200 files is risky and will most certainly break shit.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at the beginning to see if important ones are going to be replaced and update them by hand till the list contains only config fails that can safely be overwritten. Then "-5" to have them automatically replaced.

I switched to xorg, too, and it was in no way a mistake :-)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah do a etc-update, the config files it are replacing need to be replaced. I used the -5 and no problems what-so-ever. xorg will even use your XF86config, if you have made a xorg-conf. There are a few things in the xfree config that it doesn't like so you might have to do a few startx commands to , for lack of a better term, debug your config.


I switch and I love it, probably kind of the placebo effect but I think it is a faster.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

most files it wants to update are static - don't care about them. It replaces a few config files you might have touched (like xtermrc and xdm.conf etc.), but I also did "-5" and lost nothing (well, some fonts...)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i shouldve done -5 but i guess i am to late , i did them all one by one :D
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got lazy and did a -5. everything still works perfectly.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just switched also. did a -5 and no problems.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earthwings wrote:
I switched to xorg, too, and it was in no way a mistake


Been reading alot of posts about xorg but I'm still a little hesitant to make the switch......seems like it has some problems but I guess I won't know until trying it :?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I switched to it because I was running xfree-4.3 and the support for my ATI Radeon 7500 Mobile was rather bad. xorg is a big improvement for this (xfree-4.4-rc2 would be similar, I believe) and the update went really smooth. However, it can be a hassle for another system. What I did before and think is quite important is to make a binary of your currently running X-server (quickpkg xfree) so one is able to switch back easily if something goes wrong.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John5788 wrote:
i got lazy and did a -5. everything still works perfectly.


ditto
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to give it a try, lately I seem to have an insatiable urge to try anything new or experimental. Just need to do a little more research on it so I'm prepared.....and make some backups :wink:
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

switch now! itll be painless now than maybe later in the future because Xorg and Xfree86 4.4 are almost the same thing but with different licenses.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may sound silly, but how is it used practically instead of xfree? Is it as easy as emergeing it and launching startx ??
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, startx is the command.

xorgconfig is equivalent to xf86config
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John5788 wrote:
yeah, startx is the command.

xorgconfig is equivalent to xf86config


xorg.conf
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats the file in /etc/X11/
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Backing up your /etc directory is a good idea. It's pretty small. Just do a cp -a /etc ~/etc as root. :wink:
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very painless switch :-)

Code:
cp -v /etc/X11/XF86* ~/configs
emerge -C xft
emerge -b xorg-x11
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly I had no config files to update 8O
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ehrm, I updated them all by hand too...

The only annoying thing is that some ebuilds want to merge xfree again... The E17 ones (ecore and evas) to name some, emerging with nodeps went without a hitch though :)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

petrjanda wrote:
Interestingly I had no config files to update 8O


iirc most were font configs, perhaps you didn't have additional fonts installed etc. I've noticed a great speed improvement :-)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ehrm, I updated them all by hand too...

The only annoying thing is that some ebuilds want to merge xfree again... The E17 ones (ecore and evas) to name some, emerging with nodeps went without a hitch though :)


You can inject the xfree package and that might work. You could also try added -xfree to your USE flags, or try edited the ebuild.

I know the nvidia-glx also says it needs xfree in its ebuild ...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know the nvidia-glx also says it needs xfree in its ebuild ...

Is there an X virtual package that can be used in these troublesome ebuilds? That would make the most sense.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/17070 wrote:

Just to clear things up, while lots of fixes are being made regarding
dependencies on virtual/x11 and x11-base/xfree:

virtual/x11 means a package that contains all necessary libraries,
headers, build tools (imake, etc.) and other miscellaneous files to
enable any external application requiring the oh-so-vague "X" to build
and run.

This meaning may change in the future as some things grow more
modularized, but that's where it stands now.
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