Are you happy with your ATI Radeon 3D performance?

MaxDamage

Just switched from my Geforce2 GTS (fried, too much overclocking for too much tieme

) to an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro (no laughts, please). This is my system:

Ben2040 · Guru Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 445 Location: UK

Hi

They're playable wise the same, in Unreal Tournament 2004, and I also have a Radeon 9600 Pro, yet it gets 2400fps in GLX Gears.

Ben

El_Presidente_Pufferfish · Veteran Joined: 11 Jul 2002 Posts: 1179 Location: Seattle

use the 3.2.8-r1 set

IvanHoe · l33t Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 658

Well, at least I'm not the only one that's totally unhappy with the ati drivers. I should've saved my money for a GeForce 6800 Ultra.

chino_ · Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 3:11 pm Post subject:

I got a Radeon 7500 mobility. Need I say more?

gcasillo · Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject:

How excited about switching from my Radeon 9700 Pro to my new FX5950? This is the third thread I've posted to. I have been running the 2.6.x kernels since 2.6.0, and since then, I've experienced hard lockups with my Radeon. The Radeon was performing okay with the 2.4 kernels, but never great compared to what it seemed to do in Windows.

I was getting ~4500fps in glxgears at 1024x768x16bpp with the 3.2.8-r1 ati-drivers. Okay but definitely short of expectations. I seemed to remember getting 6000fps at one point in the 2.4 kernels. But the lockups have been the real bane lately. When ATI released the horrific 3.7.0 and 3.7.6 drivers, I decided enough was enough and went shopping for a nVidia card. I had two FX5200s in a couple other boxes, and despite the FX5200s "entry level" positioning in the video card world, I was impressed with their performances.

So I just got my FX5950 today. Look at these numbers and weep!

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MaxDamage · Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:18 pm Post subject:

Thanx for the answers!! I see as things are actually, ATI's cards are performing very badly compared with what they could do with decent drivers. We will see if ATI changes this in the future...

As I've read in another thread, the explanation for these drivers could be that Nvidia has been for much more time in the Linux market than ATI, so they haven't reached the level of maturity the Detonator drivers had. Anyway they should really show progress with newer releases!! :evil:

I would like you to post real-life benchmarks like quake3 or unreal tournament ones, comparing windows and linux framerates on the same machine. They would be more ultimate. Thanx again for expressing your oppinions :wink:

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Goeland86 · Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:08 pm Post subject:

the problem I'm having is trying to get DRM and DRI working with Xorg... if I succeed I'll let you know, but for the moment I'm stuck with 2D accel only...
that's the problem when you only have an IGP320M... aka Radeon Mobility U1
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kevmille · Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:43 pm Post subject:

sapphirecat · Guru Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 376

I'm happy with the performance of my 7500. For what I do it's workable, and it has silent cooling out of the box

Of course, I don't get binary drivers, but I don't have Windows to compare it to, either....
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gralves · Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 4:22 am Post subject:

Join the angry mob.... :evil:

http://www.rage3d.com/board/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=61

Look specially at:

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33733550
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33746855

This one shows a new perspective (since I never had an nvidia I don't know if he's right)

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33752719

IvanHoe · l33t Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 658

Jowilly · Guru Joined: 22 Jun 2002 Posts: 319

placeholder · Advocate Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2500

I luckily went with Nvidia for my card, and therefor haven't had problems. However, I have seen my friend's Geforce4 MX440 beat out his Radeon 9800 Pro, and it's quite terrible. I myself am definitely sticking with Nvidia.

IvanHoe · l33t Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 658

zez · Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 6:32 am Post subject:

On my 9800 Pro I get about 4500fps in glxgears (1152x864x24, default window size). It's obvious that all around nVidia's driver support is better, as they already have AMD64/IA64 driveres for Linux and even a set for FreeBSD x86. I've scaled back my Linux gaming, though, so I'm not too disappointed with this card. One oddity, though, is I get some weird color artifacts in the Plastik window decoration when playing video in mplayer w/ xv output. This never happened on my old GeForce3. Of course, I bought this card expecting this situation, so I have nothing to whine about. :lol:

Raniz · Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:12 am Post subject:

Blue Fox · Apprentice Joined: 09 Apr 2004 Posts: 216

ATI drivers are completelly fucked! They don't care for Linux consumers.
But I will buy a 6800 Ultra :lol:

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Goeland86 · Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:06 pm Post subject:

I think that the linux community really ought to write an open letter to ATI asking for more linux support, else we boycott them, and we give them something like 2 or 3 months of time to show that they DO care about linux users. Whaddya think y'all? :?:

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Lews_Therin · l33t Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 657 Location: Banned

I get ~1000 FPS in glxgears with my 9600. Interestingly, that's actually lower than when I had a 8500 by about 1000. Just thinking about this...maybe the drivers don't take advantage of newer cards, and treat them as generic for some reason?

It actually doesn't matter to me, since I don't game in Linux anyway.

Paranoid · Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 7:32 pm Post subject:

I am going to buy a nvidia card some time in the near future due to the massive amount of posts about ati problems-considering the price of a good vid card I'd rather not take chances and I have no interest in dual booting with windows

.

But....right now I'm running an :oops:

8500. It works pretty damn good most of the time although recently I've had problems with xv & xorg. The only somewhat demanding 3D game I've been playing lately is q2 and it plays very smoothly. My glxgears results:

IvanHoe · l33t Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 658

I sent ATI a support email a few days ago asking about the poor performance. All I've recieved so far is an automated response. What a surprise.

mlybarger · Guru Joined: 04 Sep 2002 Posts: 475

ok, so my card isn't exactly a quality ATI radeon. it's a Radeon 7000 VE. Cheep 32MB card that does decent 3d on older games (quake3, tuxracer, foobillards, glbillards, etc). glxgears gives it about the same frame rates as my ati aiw 128pro.

thought, i use the OS drivers, not the ati binary drivers. WTH is that all about? i buy ati b/c they release some specs to the OS community to develop drivers. this binary closed source drivers stuff is crap.

shift · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:50 am Post subject:

Sapphire-Tech ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 128MB
lspci: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]
Kernel 2.6.5, KDE 3.2.1, ati-drivers 3.7.6-r1