Will my genkernel fail?

styless · >> Compiling 2.4.26 modules...

Hi,

im trying to install Gentoo. Im at the part in the manual where i have to compile the kernel. For the fun of it i tried to use genkernel but for now 2½ hours it has just stood there diplaying:

nixnut · Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:39 pm Post subject:

Give it time. Compiling can take quite a lot of time

styless · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:48 pm Post subject:

When i came back this morning it was still hanging there. So i restartet it and are now compiling "from scratch". So i dont know if it was a newbie mistake; but it prop. was

I also realized that i might have told it to compile on a wrong arch.

Thanks.

nixnut · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject:

ciaranm · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:01 pm Post subject:

Genkernel motto: If at first you don't succeed, give up and compile your kernel manually.

styless · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:30 pm Post subject:

nixnut >> Thank you

ciaranm >> And then I did

I compiled it manully and it looks like it was a success.

But i do have another question:

I have always been told that newer computers were i686 and during Suse and Red Hat (and Fedora) it also tells me that when im installing on a Celeron or P4 or P3. Yesterday when i had to define it in the make.conf i was in doubt and asked on a forum. The answer i got was that Celeron and PII which im currently installing on at work is i386 and that my P4 was i686. So what is the right answer? And is there a "list" somewhere where i can see what cpu's have what architecture? Yesterday i compiled on a i386 because the guy on the forum said he was a Gentoo-guru. But today i compiled on i686.

ciaranm · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject:

All pentium class machines are *at least* a 586. Pentium 2 (and maybe PPro???) and some of the later celeries are 686.

styless · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:43 pm Post subject:

Thank you sooo much. What a mess

nixnut · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:33 pm Post subject:

ciaranm · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject:

I *thought* that the VIA CPUs weren't i686 because they couldn't do CMOV... I'm probably confusled though, I only do Sparc and MIPS stuff

nixnut · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject:

ciaranm · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:58 pm Post subject:

Again, not sure, but I was under the impression that at least some of the recent VIA CPUs were missing it, and google seems to agree with me. The thing is, CMOV isn't required for i686 compliance, but gcc will generate CMOV if it has an i686 CHOST. At one point there were plans for an override for this if -mcpu=c3 or somesuch was set, don't know if this happened. Anyhow, Gentoo's i686 stages won't work on VIA CPUs because of this.

nixnut · Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:04 pm Post subject:

Ah, ok, I understand now. Thanks.

styless · Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:25 pm Post subject:

I got it working ... So happy here!!!

Is there an achitecture higher than i686? nixnut mentions Pentium > Pentium 3 and Celeron but no P4?

Another question I have that I dont want to spam the forum with and open a new topic so I hope you guys know:

Under Red Hat there was a file .bash_rc or .bashrc, I think it was called, where i could put my alias's. But when i create the file and dump my alias's in there nothing happens.

ciaranm · Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:45 pm Post subject:

madchaz · Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 9:16 pm Post subject:

architecture guide for x86 numbers

386 were 386
486 were 486
Pentium ONE were 586 CPUs. The pentium pro could be considered 686 but this can sometime cause problems so should be considered 586

Pentium 2 and up, including Celerons, AMD K6-2 (the K6-1 actualy behaved like 586) are ALL considered 686 as far the the architecture is concerned. Of course, after the P2 that isn't what mathers most so that's why we have dif mcpu or march setings
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styless · Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:03 am Post subject:

Okay thanks I think I understand. What i meant by higher was like i786 or i886.

Thanks