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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:39 pm    Post subject: latex problems Reply with quote

Hi folks,
have a problem with latex. I want to write a letter using class dinbrief (I'm in Germany) and want to get a Lage, 19.4.04.
I should get it with \place{Lage}. But Latex puts only the date in the letter, but not the city (Lage). Any ideas? I'm using tetex2.0.2-r3. \place is usebal with dinbrief.
Have googled a lot for it, but I find only sites where they tell me how to use \place, but no troubleshooting. Hope some of you can help me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is the exact error? can you post the source - or at least the offending part?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when I do
latex Brief.tex I get no error.
But when I view the dvi file, there is only the date but without the city.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from OTW to Other Things Gentoo since this doesn't have to potential to turn into a decent flamewar. ;)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

amne wrote:
Moved from OTW to Other Things Gentoo since this doesn't have to potential to turn into a decent flamewar. ;)


want to bet? ;)

@Birnenpflücker:

i'll try to reproduce that tomorrow and let you know what i find. The sources would still help, especially the header.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay here is the complete Brief.tex file

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\documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{dinbrief}
\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
\usepackage{german}

\date{29.04.2004}
\stdaddress{my name\\
my street\\
Lage}
\backaddress{myaddress}
\place{Stadt}
\nowindowrules
\centeraddress
\begin{document}
\begin{letter}{reciver}
\subject{Mahnung, ebay Auktion Nr. )}
\opening{Sehr geehrter Herr X,}
leider habe ich bis zum heutigen Tag den ersteigerten Artikel nicht erhalten. Auf vorherige E-Mails habe ich auch keine Mitteilung erhalten. Hiermit setze ich Ihnen eine Frist von 7 Werktagen, den Artikel gemäß Beschreibung zu liefern. Falls keine Lieferung erfolgt werde ich nach verstreichen der Frist vom Kaufvertrag zurücktreten. Ich hoffe allerdings, das es nicht soweit kommt.
\closing{Mit freundlichen Grüßen}
\end{letter}
\end{document}


and the Argument Stadt doesn't show anywhere...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep - i get the same behavior on my box. the only reference i found to something like this is here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=dinbrief+place+group:*tex*&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=av64f8.6o4.ln%40Montecristo.Cigarren.de&rnum=4

doesnt seem to help much here - perhaps another mail to the author is due
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx, that helps a lot.
We got a new DIN (standard) for that as it seems. The command place is only used when I tell Latex to write the letter after the old Norm.
So it is not a problem of Latex, but of the Norm behind DINBrief.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always hand-code the City, am \date{} instead of using the place macro. Thats what I would have done anyway.

Now that this is kind of solved, let's take care about this:
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amne wrote:
Moved from OTW to Other Things Gentoo since this doesn't have to potential to turn into a decent flamewar. ;)


want to bet? ;)

Anyone else think DINBrief is so damn ugly layout it can only come from Germany? Functional, yes, aestetic appeal: zero.

(Nah, no racism intended, just my opinion that its ugly. But there has to be an insult somewhere if the goal is a flamewar.)

Anyone got a link for some better looking .sty files for letters?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dot find it that ugly :roll: but its a standart.
I use it quite often...
Mostly for formal communications, like the demand note which was given.

Nils
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nephros wrote:
Anyone got a link for some better looking .sty files for letters?


i never used it, but isnt there a letter class in koma?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a letter class.
But I'm in Germany and so I use Dinbiref. What do I want with some US-Letter, doesn't fit on german paper for start. (We have DIN A4, yeah I live in good old Germany where everything is normed). Or why would I take on silly US standards????

Hope I assaulted someone for the flamewar :twisted:

And next point to flame
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:55 am Post subject:
I dot find it that ugly but its a standart.
I use it quite often...
Mostly for formal communications, like the demand note which was given.

Nils

please learn german, standard is written with d at end. So if we have not enough for a flamewar I don't know...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

slartibartfasz wrote:
i never used it, but isnt there a letter class in koma?


koma is a special macro for latex that was created to reflect european habits in typography

ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/koma-script.html

http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/koma-script/

i use almost exclusively koma-script but i dont write letters...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm, I use g-brief.
I like it more then Dinbrief. It has a better layout and doesnt wast so much place with your adress like the Din Brief.
It is designed for buisness use, so the Adress is showing up in the envelop window.

I think it is a very good alternative for Dinbrief. Espacially for applies, since you have more Room for your Bodytext.

Maybe this Style doesnt have your Problem?
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