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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:02 pm    Post subject: Networking a Computer With No Ethernet Card Reply with quote

Sometimes this weekend I am going to pick up my grandparents computer and put gentoo on it. The problem is it has no ethernet card. I have an extra ethernet card laying around but its never worked so I was wondering if I could use my desktop or laptop to connect it to my network. All three machines have USB (1.1 and 2.0) and a printer port on each. I was wondering if I could use one of my machines as a host machine for there computer while im installing.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nukem996,

You can do PPP over a serial port, USB and even a parallel port.
In each case you need special cables. The first two are just wires but the USB one needs some active devices too.

A serial port link will run at most 11kb/sec, so you will wait a very long time for the downloads.

I've not used the parallel port option.

The USB one is expensive - a network card is cheaper.

Try out your 'dud' network card. If it doesn't work, borrow one from one of your other PCs.

If your dud NIC is an ISA dual media (co-ox and RJ45) device, its probably listening on the wrong media connector,

Should all else fail, a new NIC is lower cost that the required USB cable
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2004 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats what ill probably do.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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NeddySeagoon wrote:

You can do PPP over a serial port, USB and even a parallel port.


how does it work over parallel port?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

robak wrote:
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NeddySeagoon wrote:

You can do PPP over a serial port, USB and even a parallel port.


how does it work over parallel port?


It is called PLIP, and there are two HOWTOS for it:
file:///usr/doc/howto/text/PLIP.gz
file:///usr/doc/howto/text/PLIP-Install-HOWTO.gz
Never mind their age, the technology hasn't changed much. ;)

It is way faster than a serial link which is described in the
file:///usr/doc/howto/text/Serial-Laplink-HOWTO.gz

I'd still go with NICs, go to the nearest used-computer stuff shop, they usually have a bucket of usable 10MBit NICs really cheap. You might need a crossed-over Ethernet cable as well in case you don't have a Hub/Switch.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx
but i cant download the two files for PLIP
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2004 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robak wrote:
thx
but i cant download the two files for PLIP

I assume you mean my links are not working? These are the official online locations:
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PLIP-Install-HOWTO.html
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PLIP.html
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Serial-Laplink-HOWTO/index.html
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