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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 11:38 am    Post subject: ugly ugly USB mouse Reply with quote

having a very unpleasant times doing anything in new install as the mouse i have, which is part of the creative wireless 6000 mouse/keyboard combo JERKS like an overdose victims. This was a problem that I noticed on the liveCD (2004.1 64 bit edition) so I assume it is something intrinsic to gentoo that doesn't like my mouse... Problem seems to be that the driver/kernel (I have USB, HID,USB input layer, USB file system & UHCI support all built into a monolothic kernel) just isn't updating the position very often. I Catted the /dev/input/mice and rather than a whole screen full of gibberish, as suggested by the usb-mouse faqs I've read, I got about a line or two after squiggling the damn rodent five ways to sunday. The mouse was fine on Fedora (pity about the fact that it then proceeded to crash all over the place) and (on the rare occasions that it didn't screw up and disable ALL USB peripherals) on Suse 9.0. It only seems to be gentoo that hates it so...
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disnesquick,

Have you got all the USB diagnostics turnned off in your kernel?

Otherwise the USB system spends most of its time writing to your logs.

Do
Code:
grep USB .config
at the root of your kernel tree. Some good signs are
Quote:
# CONFIG_USB_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH is not set

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no diagnostics, I assumed they wouldn't have been set on the install shell anyway(?) This is my config:

# ALSA USB devices
# CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO is not set
# USB support
CONFIG_USB=y
# CONFIG_USB_DEBUG is not set
# Miscellaneous USB options
CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y
# CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH is not set
# CONFIG_USB_DYNAMIC_MINORS is not set
# USB Host Controller Drivers
# CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD is not set
# CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD is not set
CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y
# USB Device Class drivers
# CONFIG_USB_AUDIO is not set
# CONFIG_USB_BLUETOOTH_TTY is not set
# CONFIG_USB_MIDI is not set
# CONFIG_USB_ACM is not set
# CONFIG_USB_PRINTER is not set
# CONFIG_USB_STORAGE is not set
# USB Human Interface Devices (HID)
CONFIG_USB_HID=y
CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y
# CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV is not set
# CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK is not set
# CONFIG_USB_WACOM is not set
# CONFIG_USB_KBTAB is not set
# CONFIG_USB_POWERMATE is not set
# CONFIG_USB_MTOUCH is not set
# CONFIG_USB_XPAD is not set
# CONFIG_USB_ATI_REMOTE is not set
# USB Imaging devices
# CONFIG_USB_MDC800 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_MICROTEK is not set
# CONFIG_USB_HPUSBSCSI is not set
# USB Multimedia devices
# CONFIG_USB_DABUSB is not set
# Video4Linux support is needed for USB Multimedia device support
# USB Network adaptors
# CONFIG_USB_CATC is not set
# CONFIG_USB_KAWETH is not set
# CONFIG_USB_PEGASUS is not set
# CONFIG_USB_RTL8150 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_USBNET is not set
# USB port drivers
# CONFIG_USB_USS720 is not set
# USB Serial Converter support
# CONFIG_USB_SERIAL is not set
# USB Miscellaneous drivers
# CONFIG_USB_EMI62 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_EMI26 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_TIGL is not set
# CONFIG_USB_AUERSWALD is not set
# CONFIG_USB_RIO500 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_LEGOTOWER is not set
# CONFIG_USB_LCD is not set
# CONFIG_USB_LED is not set
# CONFIG_USB_TEST is not set
# USB Gadget Support
# CONFIG_USB_GADGET is not set

are there any USB diagnostics programs that might help trace the problem?
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disnesquick,

Please do
Code:
dmesg | grep ohci
dmesg | grep uhci


One of those should return nothing
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UHCI was the one that produced results, as expected, motherboard is a VIA...

bash-2.05b# dmesg | grep ohci
bash-2.05b# dmesg | grep uhci
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: irq 21, io base 000000000000b400
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: irq 21, io base 000000000000b800
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: irq 21, io base 000000000000c000
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: irq 21, io base 000000000000c400
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disnesquick,

Back to your kernel tree root and do
Code:
grep INPUT .config


Have you got
Quote:
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_X=1600
CONFIG_INPUT_MOUSEDEV_SCREEN_Y=1200
set for your desktop size?

Mine 1s 1600 x 1200.
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2004 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mouse resolutions are set to my desktop resolution: 1280 1024

I don't think that is the problem though as the liveCD had a jerky mouse (in the console screen) and the mouse wheel is also jerky. Just seems to be that the mouse isn't updating it's position very often but going for it all at once...
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2004 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is DEFINATELY a kernel 2.6.x problem. I've tried a number of kernels now and the only one that would compile AND give my mouse full support is 2.4.25. Are there any known issues with the 2.6.x and USB that might help me find the specific problem in the source?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have the same product and the same problem ...

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