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cron0
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 Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 12:02 am Post subject: No way to get winex free? |
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I used to use winex-cvs, but now it have been removed for purposes that I understand very well..
Are there any free versions of winex that are free? |
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teknomage1
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| wine is free, downloading the cvs version from transgaming is subject to restriction but is mostly free, and transgaming's subscribtion is cheap. |
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Malakin
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Plastic
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| There are some great scripts to grab & build the cvs stuff for you. Google "GetCVSWineX" |
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Malakin
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 7:22 am Post subject: |
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This is all you have to type, you could use it as a script if you wanted | Code: | cvs -d:pserver:cvs@cvs.transgaming.org:/cvsroot login
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:cvs@cvs.transgaming.org:/cvsroot co winex
cd winex
./configure
make depend
make
make install |
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SoulSe
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 9:26 am Post subject: |
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The cvs version is lacking in areas though...
Why not just subscribe to Transgaming? $5 is chump-change, even for me living in South Africa on a low salary.
I think it is affordable and worth it if you are going to play a lot of games. I just play Warcraft 3 - it is the only reason I have WineX and I still think it is worth it...
Plus, you then get to vote on what games will be supported, you get access to helpful forums and the full version of WineX (which is different and better then the cvs version). 
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hardskinone
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| SoulSe wrote: | | Why not just subscribe to Transgaming? $5 is chump-change, even for me living in South Africa on a low salary. |
Yeah. Winex is a good piece of software and $5 isn't much but there're people w/o credit card.
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coreutils
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Winex is ok.
Many of the games can be played in normal wine with a little effort though. And don't forget that Winex would not be possible at all if it wasn't for years of voluntary work develeloping wine. I think they make a good business tweaking the work of others a bit and then selling it. |
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SoulSe
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| Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| coreutils wrote: | Winex is ok.
Many of the games can be played in normal wine with a little effort though. And don't forget that Winex would not be possible at all if it wasn't for years of voluntary work develeloping wine. I think they make a good business tweaking the work of others a bit and then selling it. |
Can't argue with that. Although they did add a helluva lot to wine...
Anyway, I play Warcraft 3 (sometimes) and that's about it. Now I only buy native games (UT2004, anyone?).
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sgaap
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I just play Warcraft 3 - it is the only reason I have WineX and I still think it is worth it...
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But warcraft can use opengl, so no need for winex (a implementation of wine for direct3d games)
I am amazed at the way transgaming pushes winex as a gaming solution when 95% of the games that run using winex work thanks to the wine project
(emerge wine saves you $5 for playing warcraft 3)
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teknomage1
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| winex isn't for direct3d though that was where they initially concentrated their energies. Winex from transgaming has licensed the right to interact with various copy protection technologies so that games run out of the box without needing cracks (legal or otherwise). |
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I dun know, all I know is that someone is CHARGING for linux software  . I will conform though  |
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SoulSe
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| -=GGW=- $ol!d $n4>|e wrote: | | I dun know, all I know is that someone is CHARGING for linux software . I will conform though |
You've fallen prey to one of the biggest miss-conceptions about Linux. Linux IS NOT free like a beer that your friend buys you, it IS free like choice.
If we want Linux to get any further than it has so far, we need people to understand that. It takes time, money and sacrifice to produce software - if everyone just free-loads then we will kill what we have here.
That is why I bought Gentoo discs from the store, why I subscribe to WineX and why I will always donate money to Mozilla.
The big difference is that you only have to give as much as you can afford, even if it is $1 - so anyone can do it.
| sgaap wrote: | But warcraft can use opengl, so no need for winex (a implementation of wine for direct3d games)
I am amazed at the way transgaming pushes winex as a gaming solution when 95% of the games that run using winex work thanks to the wine project
(emerge wine saves you $5 for playing warcraft 3) |
Uh... you're semi-right. WineX does a hell of a lot more than your are giving it credit for. I've also never managed to get Warcraft 3 working with just wine.
But now consider this: the kernel developers bring out the kernel (which is, arguably, what Linux is) and then companies like Redhat and Mandrake take it, change it and sell it.
Do you have a problem with that? And if not, why do you mind people doing the same with Wine? It's not like they're forcing you to buy it...
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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$5 - don't eat that big mac deal of the day just ONCE a month... its not hard...
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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dont get me wrong, i donated to gentoo and will buy winex its just wine is so much brought from wine, it seems wrong, it's like someonw making a gentoox thats like 2% better and charging 5 bucks for it, takes the backing somewhat out of the origional product because ppl dont mind paying 5 bucks for something thats 2% better, wich takes thier mind away from the origonal "legacy" OOOO  pwned   |
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teknomage1
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| It's not like transgaming doesn't feed their code back to wine project. |
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x20vmk4x
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 5:37 am Post subject: |
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| teknomage1 wrote: | | It's not like transgaming doesn't feed their code back to wine project. |
was that sarcasm? |
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Malakai
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 6:11 am Post subject: |
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How did Transgaming take a free open source project like wine, create a derivative work (aka winex), and then make it closed software (I realize cvs is still there, but they say maybe not for long)?
I though almost every OSS license prevented just this. |
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 7:39 am Post subject: |
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not the license Wine was under... They changed licenses a few versions ago. transgaming has been working with the latest "unrestricted licensed" wine version...
The new license of wine, the well-known LGPL does forbid this...
*edit
this link tells you a bit more
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The problem I have with WineX is the very nature of the program... it's emulation. Emulation is okay for software, and for really old games, but it's a big performance hit when it comes to the latest games. I want native Linux games, like the most excellent UT2004 (which I have) and the upcoming Doom III.
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Uh... you're semi-right. WineX does a hell of a lot more than your are giving it credit for. I've also never managed to get Warcraft 3 working with just wine
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Ok, winex does have a second use: to install copyprotected games
Most people who I know to use wine for gaming have (small) windows partition to install and play games that dont work with emulating (including myself), they just install the game in windows one time, patch it with a no-cd patch and copy it to linux (rebooting for a game is the reason I want to game in my main os)
wc3 worked out of the box for me with wine (ok, I added an option to use opengl, but this is something winex needs also)
If I compile a list of games that do run on winex and not on wine then I have a really small list
Max payne 2
gta3
bf1942 (seems to work, never got it to work with winex from cvs however)
nfs: underground (just like with gta with a huge performance drop)
Besides that I never got any other direct3d only game working with winex (so only when the commercial wine packages differs heavily from cvs I cant imaging any use for a $5 donation to those people at transgaming)
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Malakin
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The problem I have with WineX is the very nature of the program... it's emulation. Emulation is okay for software, and for really old games, but it's a big performance hit when it comes to the latest games. |
To quote from www.winehq.com: | Quote: | Wine is an Open Source implementation of the Windows API on top of X and Unix.
Wine Is Not an Emulator. |
If it were an emulator it would be very slow and games like Farcry certainly wouldn't run acceptably with it. |
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VladP12
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2004 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I found a way to get FULL WINEX FOR FREE
If you want to know how email me at
VladP17@netscape.net
Cause i can't tell you guys how on the forum, but it's using another free program offered by Gentoo so just send me a message with the topic "FREEE WINEX?!!!" and i'll reply on how to get it STEP BY STEP
Hope u guys are interested.
PS: this action is not illegal (its legal) but i tried to talk bout it b4 and admins said i couldn't talk bout it on the forum.
PSS: You can also IM me @ VladP12 |
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