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 Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 4:44 pm Post subject: Installing Gentoo from stage1. |
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I want to install the gentoo from stage1 tarball. But I can't download sources at home.  How much must I download? I'm going to use:
XFree86
KDE
CUPS
and some usefull utilities (syslog-ng, etc). |
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Do you mean you "can't download from home" or do you mean that you "have a 56k connection at home"? To do stage one your talking at least 100megs of downloading. I can't say exactly, I've had a cable for a little while now, so I haven't paid much attention :) If you can get your computer to a connection (or to a good one) you can do "emerge -f package" and that will just fetch the packages. Then later you can "emerge package" and that will compile it.
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nixnut
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| Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Installing Gentoo from stage1. |
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| unnamed wrote: | I want to install the gentoo from stage1 tarball. But I can't download sources at home. How much must I download? I'm going to use:
XFree86
KDE
CUPS
and some usefull utilities (syslog-ng, etc). |
Do a quick minimal stage3 install. Get a current portage snapshot and extract that. Then use emerge to find out which packages you need to download. "emerge -p kde" and "emerge -p cups" will list what you need to download. Then download those packages from a mirror like http://gentoo.tiscali.nl/gentoo/distfiles/. The packages are in the distfiles directory. Put these in /usr/portage/distfiles. Then do emerge kde and emerge cups.
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Installing Gentoo from stage1. |
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| nixnut wrote: |
Do a quick minimal stage3 install. Get a current portage snapshot and extract that. Then use emerge to find out which packages you need to download. "emerge -p kde" and "emerge -p cups" will list what you need to download. Then download those packages from a mirror like http://gentoo.tiscali.nl/gentoo/distfiles/. The packages are in the distfiles directory. Put these in /usr/portage/distfiles. Then do emerge kde and emerge cups. |
Now I'm using Gentoo 2004.0 from stage3 (portage 200402...). BUT I WANT STAGE1!!!  I have a cable modem, downloading speed 200-300 Kbytes/sec, but I have a problem: my Internet provider is very expensive. :(What packages must I download? Portage, texinfo, gettext, binutils, gcc, ncurses, (it must be download by bootscrap.sh) vanilla-sources, reiserfsprogs, syslog-ng, kde, cups, ... and? What about necessary system packages? |
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: Installing Gentoo from stage1. |
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| unnamed wrote: | | BUT I WANT STAGE1!!! |
On any gentoo system, you can reemerge every installed package on your system.
So do a stage3 to get a working system, download the packages you need, the reemerge the entire world. The end effect is the same as doing a stage 1. |
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unnamed
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Installing Gentoo from stage1. |
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| friction wrote: |
On any gentoo system, you can reemerge every installed package on your system.
So do a stage3 to get a working system, download the packages you need, the reemerge the entire world. The end effect is the same as doing a stage 1. |
No! )) I have some problems with filesystems (after power off). And I want "clean" system with the lastest portage. I'll sync my system every two weeks.
PS: If I'll do emerge sync every week, how much must I download for it? |
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Installing Gentoo from stage1. |
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| unnamed wrote: | [No! )) I have some problems with filesystems (after power off). And I want "clean" system with the lastest portage.
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Stage 3 is clean too.  Just do emerge -e world to rebuild everything using your latest settings.
| Quote: | I'll sync my system every two weeks.
PS: If I'll do emerge sync every week, how much must I download for it? |
Depends on how many packages have changed since the last time. emerge sync reports how many files and bytes were transferred when it finishes.
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| Quote: | | emerge sync reports how many files and bytes were transferred when it finishes. |
 I needn't this after merging. But HOW MUCH, e.g. 1 Mb, 10 Mb, 100 Mb, 1000 Mb etc??? |
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Ok I did a sync 2days ago and I just did on now. Here is the summary at the end :
Number of files: 82908
Number of files transferred: 1391
Total file size: 65913180 bytes
Total transferred file size: 2339675 bytes
Literal data: 2339675 bytes
Matched data: 0 bytes
File list size: 1838798
Total bytes written: 28005
Total bytes read: 4241640
wrote 28005 bytes read 4241640 bytes 22295.80 bytes/sec
total size is 65913180 speedup is 15.44
>>> Updating Portage cache... ...done!
Maybe nixnut can break these numbers down better but it looks like 2.3M downloaded
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2004 3:34 pm Post subject: Re: ... |
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Thanks!
And the last question: When you did emerge sync before? |
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a) I think that at least glibc won't be re-emerged by `emerge -e world`.
2) .tar.bz2 snapshot of portage tree has about 15MB; content is 65MB (portage-20040512.tar.bz2) |
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hielvc
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I'm going to reiterate something thats been said but In your situtation I would do a stage3 + GRP. Afterwords you can do "emerge -e world or/ system" and pakages will be emerged with your flags. It is also the only convenet way for you get a complete listing of pkgs needed by doing an | Code: |
#emerge sysnc
emerge system -ep > 100fileslist ( you can play with "cut and sort" to get a nice list)
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emerge world -ep > 3??files.list |
You can also get a list, actualy more compelet, by useing | Code: |
qpkg -I > 3??file.list |
which is in the gentoolkit. |
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