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zeky Guru
Joined: 24 Feb 2003 Posts: 470 Location: Vukojebina, Europe
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 7:30 pm Post subject: Prelinking is GOOD!!!! |
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...so USE it!
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placeholder Advocate
Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2500
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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I already use it. :p |
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tehjap n00b
Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 70 Location: MS
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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prelink is amazing. the difference isn't just a subtle one, it's waaay faster! |
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ed0n l33t
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 638 Location: Prishtine/Kosove
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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prelink is not good.
Its _great_ . |
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theCheat n00b
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 43 Location: Atlanta
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codergeek42 Bodhisattva
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 5142 Location: Anaheim, CA (USA)
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Seriously, prelinkingmake O.o Writer load in just over 2 seconds, whereas it took like 10 seconds to load when I used FC1 on the same box a few months ago...
and X (Prelinking + X.org + 2.6.5-gentoo kernel) seems to load up way fast. (like it says "Loading entrranced..." and then the screen flickers for a split second, then the NVIDIA logo comes up (btw, is there a way to disable ti while still using their openGL drivers?), then the entrance screen comes upand I get to login to Enlightenment, which takes not even 5 seconds to fully load. Amazing stuff! _________________ ~~ Peter: Programmer, Mathematician, STEM & Free Software Advocate, Enlightened Agent, Transhumanist, Fedora contributor
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roo_ Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 91
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MooktaKiNG Guru
Joined: 11 Nov 2002 Posts: 326 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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prelinking has adramatic effect on KDE/QT apps. It is fantastic.
It takes a bit long for the first KDE app to start, then on the next app will come on nearly instantaniously. Which is fantastic becuase i start klipper in openbox, and that loads kde stuff and when i start kate or kwrite it starts instantly _________________ http://www.mooktakim.com
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zeroK Apprentice
Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 159 Location: Austria.Klagenfurt
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Stupid question but when I update a library which previously has been prelinked into an app, will this app cease to work or will it just fallback into "shared mode"? |
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zeky Guru
Joined: 24 Feb 2003 Posts: 470 Location: Vukojebina, Europe
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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zeroK wrote: | Stupid question but when I update a library which previously has been prelinked into an app, will this app cease to work or will it just fallback into "shared mode"? |
Just prelink the binaryes again and you'll be fine
From the doc...
Code: | If an application's dependent libraries change after you have prelinked it, you need to re-prelink the application, otherwise you loose the speed advantage. This is to say, everytime you update a package via portage that updates libraries, they need to be re-prelinked. |
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HydroSan l33t
Joined: 04 Mar 2004 Posts: 764 Location: The Kremlin (aka Canada)
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I notice Mozilla, XINE and OpenOffice both open and seemingly operate a lot faster. NTPL 4 lyfe. _________________ I was a Gangster for Capitalism, by Major General Smedley Butler.
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MooktaKiNG Guru
Joined: 11 Nov 2002 Posts: 326 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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One thing though, does OOo binary work with prelink? or is it just the source? _________________ http://www.mooktakim.com
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Hypnos Advocate
Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 2889 Location: Omnipresent
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Prelinking has not impressed me. Then again, I run GNOME (nearly all C, not C++), and I have a slow hard disk (4200RPM notebook disk) which allows the CPU to dynamically link to a library while loading the next into memory. _________________ Personal overlay | Simple backup scheme |
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Ian l33t
Joined: 28 Oct 2002 Posts: 834 Location: Somerville, MA
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 2:51 am Post subject: |
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I can never get prelinking to work. It always spits out tons of errors, and I have to change it back. :\ |
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wilburpan l33t
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 977
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 3:16 am Post subject: |
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Hypnos wrote: | Prelinking has not impressed me. Then again, I run GNOME (nearly all C, not C++), and I have a slow hard disk (4200RPM notebook disk) which allows the CPU to dynamically link to a library while loading the next into memory. |
That explains why prelinking has not provided a huge difference on my notebook as well.
There is a little improvement in startup speed for me, but not huge.
So -- how does one reverse the prelinking process? _________________ I'm only hanging out in OTW until I get rid of this stupid l33t ranking.....Crap. That didn't work. |
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MooktaKiNG Guru
Joined: 11 Nov 2002 Posts: 326 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 3:17 am Post subject: |
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Ian wrote: | I can never get prelinking to work. It always spits out tons of errors, and I have to change it back. :\ |
That doesn't mean its not working.
Not everything gets prelinked, who knows why, lost deps or whatever.
But everything will still work. _________________ http://www.mooktakim.com
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MooktaKiNG Guru
Joined: 11 Nov 2002 Posts: 326 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 3:20 am Post subject: |
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I haven't had any problems with prelinking so far.
I don't see any reason to 'reverse' prelinking. I don't think many people would notice it if it were enable by default
I like prelinking, it speeds some apps up a lot.
But not everything. Thats no reason to stop using it though, becuase i have seen had anything being broken becuase of it, or i have ever heard of anyone had anything broken becuase of it.
but anyway, its upto the individuals _________________ http://www.mooktakim.com
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Hypnos Advocate
Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 2889 Location: Omnipresent
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 3:22 am Post subject: |
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wilburpan wrote: | So -- how does one reverse the prelinking process? |
prelink -uam _________________ Personal overlay | Simple backup scheme |
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codergeek42 Bodhisattva
Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 5142 Location: Anaheim, CA (USA)
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Perfect, thanx!
MooktaKiNG wrote: | One thing though, does OOo binary work with prelink? or is it just the source? | as prelinking deals with the binaries, you should not have to compile it from source (though I did) for it to be abel to prelink. _________________ ~~ Peter: Programmer, Mathematician, STEM & Free Software Advocate, Enlightened Agent, Transhumanist, Fedora contributor
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senectus Guru
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 534
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 5:22 am Post subject: |
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I hear said that it breaks WineX...
I use WineX too much for me to break it.. _________________ 2800+XP A7N8X FX6600GT
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Ian l33t
Joined: 28 Oct 2002 Posts: 834 Location: Somerville, MA
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Just out of curiosity, is it possible to set the ebuilds to prelink their compiled programs at the end? I know it's hard to merge into every ebuild, but maybe just add it in as ebuilds are updated? Hell, you could even control it with a USE flag (USE="prelink"). It's a neat idea, not sure how easy it is to do though. |
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