Complete freeze

cogitate · Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject: Complete freeze

Just gone through a fresh install (two really) and everything went fine. Boot the computer after install, trying to emerge gnome and it freezes. This is not the only freeze that happens. Sometimes (but not always) the keyboard does not respond after startup (can't even log in).

A freeze has always been during either of the following

nyteryda · Guru Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 337 Location: London

If you dual boot it might be worth trying prime95

and are the tempretures taken strait after a crash/freeze ?

Im only saying these things because I had freezes during large emerges and mine was a temprature problem
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cogitate · Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 10:29 pm Post subject:

This is a brand new box with new everything, the only thing on there is gentoo. The temperatures are taken immediately after a crash. If I sit there and watch the temps they don't alter much from when the box is first started.

*Edit: The box has also now frozen during two kernel compiles

nyteryda · Guru Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 337 Location: London

did you install from stage1/2 or stage 3 ?

when you compile your kernel are you pretty sure you know what to put in and what not ? i.e how experienced are you?

what other processes do you have running at the moment

you have got swap space running ?

your harddisks are fine and dandy ?

what are your CFLAGS ?

(I'm shot in darks/guessing here...)

you could try vanilla 2.4 sources (i think they are supposed to be most stable at moment) only to see if it makes a difference
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cogitate · Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 11:23 pm Post subject:

The first attempt at the install was a stage1, the second attempt was stage2 (pentium4 sources). I've been using linux for about 3 years now, gentoo for the quite some time now (over a year at least), but there are still some parts of the kernel that confuse me. I've set up 4 other computers on gentoo though, so I'm not totally new at it.

Swap is on and as far as I can tell the hd's are fine. I pulled them out of another computer and put them in this one (hda 10GB, hdb 6GB). I've never had a problem with them, although I realize that means nothing. The kernel has always recognized them fine on boot as far as I can tell.

nyteryda · Guru Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 337 Location: London

first the CFLAGS seem fine to me...

did you try a different kernel ? like i said i found the the vanilla sources were good when you have problems cos they are just plain. if you try them and you have a problem still send me the .config file and ill see if i can see anything in it (not that im an expert I just made alot of mistakes of my own

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oh incase you don't know you can check your hard disks by using

b0fh_ · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 12:21 am Post subject:

are you compiling in a framebuffer console? the fact the system also freezes in xf86config may indicate video card/agp problem. what video card is it and are you using framebuffer console or X?

Peace.
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cogitate · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:08 am Post subject:

I'm using an old ati mach 64 pci card, the agp slot is empty because I haven't bought a card yet (getting a capture card eventually), but I don't think that is the problem because its a card that I pulled out of an older computer (P3 @ 733) that was running 2.6.1 kernel. I have framebuffer support in the kernel, but no vga line in grub so the screen blanks for a moment during startup as it realizes that the framebuffer isn't set up properly, but then it goes back to basic terminal. If I take framebuffer out of the kernel this doesn't happen.

One thing I tried is that the Antec Sonata has a special "Fan Only" power connector (molex 4 pin), and it says in the manual that the fan speed is varied to try to keep the box quiet. The manual states that when using the fan only connector some hardware sensors might notice a very low fan speed and give false alarms about a problem with the fan. I've tried changing to a regular molex connector and I've begun an emerge gnome, this has been working good for about 45 minutes now, but I have yet to determine if this solved the problem.

Is there a way to alter settings for acceptable fan speeds?

cogitate · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:26 am Post subject:

I haven't tried a different kernel yet, but I have thought about going back to an old one if this emerge fails on me. Its still going strong with gnome (over half way through) so it might be the strange fan connectors. Unfortunately they really do make the box quieter, so I wish I could use them.

dalek · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:38 am Post subject:

I ran into that exact problem once and I had the wrong IDE driver installed in the kernel. You may want to check that.

Hope that helps or you find the fix.

Later

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cogitate · Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:11 pm Post subject:

For anyone that comes accross this. The problem seems to be solved by using a regular molex instead of the "Fan only" power connectors. Anyone that buys this case (Antec Sonata), the special connectors cause problems. If I ever find a way around this I'll post it here.