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ColinAnderson
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:37 pm    Post subject: Controlling Various Computer Hardware (Fans, etc.) Reply with quote

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colin@magic-wand colin $ sensors
w83697hf-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
VCore:     +1.69 V  (min =  +0.65 V, max =  +0.52 V)       ALARM
+3.3V:     +3.30 V  (min =  +0.21 V, max =  +3.43 V)
+5V:       +4.95 V  (min =  +0.06 V, max =  +0.22 V)       ALARM
+12V:     +11.57 V  (min =  +6.16 V, max =  +0.69 V)       ALARM
-12V:      +0.66 V  (min = -13.73 V, max = -14.23 V)       ALARM
-5V:       +5.12 V  (min =  +2.40 V, max =  -4.48 V)       ALARM
V5SB:      +5.55 V  (min =  +5.25 V, max =  +5.20 V)       ALARM
VBat:      +3.24 V  (min =  +0.16 V, max =  +0.20 V)       ALARM
fan1:        0 RPM  (min = 6887 RPM, div = 2)              ALARM
fan2:     3183 RPM  (min = 23275 RPM, div = 2)              ALARM
temp1:       +30 C  (high =   +64 C, hyst =  -108 C)   sensor = thermistor
temp2:     +40.5 C  (high =   +75 C, hyst =   +70 C)   sensor = thermistor
alarms:
beep_enable:
          Sound alarm disabled

eeprom-i2c-0-50
Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at 5000
Memory type:            DDR SDRAM DIMM
Memory size (MB):       512

How do I go about controlling certain things, specifically the fans? Any help would be appreciated. Just so you know, I'm planning on writing a simple script to control the chassis fans (fan1) depending upon the system temperature. Mainly to reduce noise levels. Turn them off when the temperature is within a certain range, and on when it's warmer. :)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

app-misc/ksensors KSensors - a nice lm_sensors frontend for KDE
sys-apps/lm-sensors Hardware Sensors Monitoring by lm_sensors
x11-misc/xsensors A hardware health information viewer, interface to lm-sensors
x11-plugins/gkrellm-sensors A GKrellm plugin for monitoring lm_sensors
x11-plugins/wmalms wmalms X-windows hardware sensors applet
x11-plugins/wmmsens Window Maker dock app for monitoring your motherboard's hardware sensors
x11-plugins/wmsensormon WindowMaker DockApp: Monitors sensors using lm_sensors


here is the HOW-TO from tldp.org
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/K7s5a-HOWTO-3.html

here are afew related forum threads:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=161972&highlight=lmsensors
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=54450&highlight=lmsensors
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=180499&highlight=lmsensors
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=101573&highlight=lmsensors
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=52815&highlight=lmsensors
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=178465&highlight=lmsensors
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=174924&highlight=lmsensors


And here is a good guide for installing/configuring i2c and lm_sensors written by one of the developers of lm_sensors:
http://khali.linux-fr.org/devel/i2c/
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I have lm-sensors-2.6.5 and everything installed, and from what you can see it's working. I just wanted to know how I might go about controlling certain things, mainly the fans (turning them on and off). Is this possible? And if it his, how? I'm looking through those documents, and maybe I'm missing everything, but I don't see much regarding controlling the devices.

GKrellM is pretty much out of the question as I'm not using a graphical environment in this setup -- it's a file server I administer via SSH from my laptop. :) Thanks for your help so far!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lmsensors can control your fans. It does it automatically. Setting it up correctly is something I've never attempted. Read these threads:

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=101573&highlight=lmsensors
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=54450&highlight=lmsensors
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=52815&highlight=lmsensors

lmsensors doc page:
http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/docs.html

there is a script in the lmsensors package called fancontrol that can control the fan. Here is an article showing how to do it directly through the /proc interface instead. You can write any script you want instead of using the builtin fancontrol script:
http://www.lula.org/pipermail/lula/2004-January/002289.html
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really do appreciate your help, but I'm still not getting anywhere. I'm having trouble understanding where in these threads and documentations it explains how to control fan speed, or turn the fans on or off.

The /proc interface article was nice, but I guess I do not have PWM available as it does not exist in anywhere within /proc. If you could give me an example of how to turn the fans on or off or something of that nature that I can see, it would greatly help me.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 8:58 pm    Post subject: just configured fancontrol in kernel 2.6 nforce2 Reply with quote

Hello!

What's really great about this is that I just finished configuring this about 5 minutes ago.

If you're using a 2.4 kernel, I think everything just works. try running pwmconfig, then fancontrol. I assume that you have successfully installed lm-sensors, and are able to run 'sensors' and get data

if you're using a 2.6 kernel, it takes a little bit more work.

The good news: the command pwmconfig will write a settings file for you called /etc/fancontrol that fancontrol will use to adjust your fans for you based on temp readings.

The not so great news: it looks like the fan and temp device names have changed in 2.6 so you will need to update the pwmconfig script to look for the new names.

you can open up /usr/sbin/pwmconfig in your favorite editor and change the following:
LINE 66: */pwm[1-9] to */fan[1-9]_pwm
LINE 67: */pwm[1-9] to */fan[1-9]_pwm
LINE 75: */fan_input[1-9] to */fan[1-9]_input
LINE 361 */temp_input[1-9] to */temp[1-9]_input

If you want the whole pwmconfig file let me know.

After that, I was able to run the pwmconfig script which wrote out a settings file for fancontrol.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you so much Gestalt73! I was trying to point him in the right direction. I have never really attempted to do what he was asking. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 9:30 pm    Post subject: the inet.d script I'm using to start fancontrol Reply with quote

-- VERY IMPORTANT --
Make sure that your fancontrol settings are appropriate for your system. That means setting up fancontrol and testing its behaviour under load. open up gkrellm or ksensors or sensors and watch temp and fan speed changes during games, compiles etc. It would be a pity if you accidentally fried your cpu because your max_temp was set too high and your cpu fan wasn't permitted to run at full speed.

In case you or anyone else is interested I pieced together an inet.d script to automatically start and stop fancontrol:

Code:
nano -w /etc/init.d/fancontrol


Code:
#!/sbin/runscript
# Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo Technologies, Inc.
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# Modified fancontrol script
opts="${opts} reload"

depend() {
        need lm_sensors
}

start() {
        ebegin "Starting fancontrol"
        start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --background --exec /usr/sbin/fancontrol
        result=$?
        eend $result
}

stop() {
        ebegin "Stopping fancontrol"
        start-stop-daemon --stop --signal 1 --quiet --pidfile /var/run/fancontrol.pid
        result=$?
        eend $result
}

reload() {
        ebegin "Reloading fancontrol"
        killall -HUP fancontrol &>/dev/null
        result=$?
        eend $result
}


And finally:

Code:
rc-update add fancontrol default
/etc/init.d/fancontrol start




So far this works for me.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the init script, Gestalt! I've been trying to come up with my own script, but I coundn't get it to terminate properly ... but i'm a n00b.

One thing that's cool about fancontrol is that it actually doesn't need lm_sensors at all if you use a 2.6 kernel - most hw sensors can be compiled in the kernel. If you want to use the pwmconfig script to write the config file, you might have to edit the code and rename some of the references to /sys/busses/i2c/...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much! Both of you. :)

Everytime I attempted to run the pwmconfig script, it exited telling me there were no pwm modules found, so I figured my motherboard didn't support it. However, my motherboard is brand new (ASUS) as I just built this computer last week. :) So I figure it ought to have pwm. The sensors driver (winbond w83627hf or something) supports pwm, so I figure the motherboard should as well.

I'll see if that will sort some things out when I get home (at work at the moment).
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I changed the configuration file, and it apparently detected PWM properly. However, it would not let me write a configuration file becuase I wasn't root ... but I WAS ROOT. So, haven't figured that out. I changed the section where it detects root so that it always thinks I'm root ... but it never successfully changes the fans anyway, so it doesn't matter. It only reports that there is no correclation. :( It makes me sad.
Code:
root@magic-wand colin # pwmconfig
This program will search your sensors for pulse width modulation (pwm)
controls, and test each one to see if it controls a fan on
your motherboard. Note that many motherboards do not have pwm
circuitry installed, even if your sensor chip supports pwm.

We will attempt to briefly stop each fan using the pwm controls.
The program will attempt to restore each fan to full speed
after testing. However, it is ** very important ** that you
physically verify that the fans have been to full speed
after the program has completed.

Found the following PWM controls:
   1-0290/fan1_pwm
   1-0290/fan2_pwm

Found the following fan sensors:
   1-0290/fan1_input     current speed: 2755 RPM
   1-0290/fan2_input     current speed: 3229 RPM

Warning!!! This program will stop your fans, one at a time,
for approximately 5 seconds each!!!
This may cause your processor temperature to rise!!!
If you do not want to do this hit control-C now!!!
Hit return to continue:

Testing pwm control 1-0290/fan1_pwm ...
  1-0290/fan1_input ... speed was 2755 now 2777
    no correlation
  1-0290/fan2_input ... speed was 3229 now 3229
    no correlation

No correlations were detected.
There is either no fan connected to the output of 1-0290/fan1_pwm,
or the connected fan has no rpm-signal connected to one of
the tested fan sensors. (Note: not all motherboards have
the pwm outputs connected to the fan connectors,
check out the hardware database on http://www.almico.com/forumindex.php)

Did you see/hear a fan stopping during the above test (n)? n

Testing pwm control 1-0290/fan2_pwm ...
  1-0290/fan1_input ... speed was 2755 now 2789
    no correlation
  1-0290/fan2_input ... speed was 3229 now 3229
    no correlation

No correlations were detected.
There is either no fan connected to the output of 1-0290/fan2_pwm,
or the connected fan has no rpm-signal connected to one of
the tested fan sensors. (Note: not all motherboards have
the pwm outputs connected to the fan connectors,
check out the hardware database on http://www.almico.com/forumindex.php)

Did you see/hear a fan stopping during the above test (n)? n

Testing is complete.
Please verify that all fans have returned to their normal speed.

The fancontrol script can automatically respond to temperature changes
of your system by changing fanspeeds.
Do you want to set up its configuration file now (y)? n
root@magic-wand colin #

Any ideas? Or am I just out of luck?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinAnderson wrote:
I changed the configuration file, and it apparently detected PWM properly.


In wich way did you change your configuration?
I have the same problem:
Code:
[root@beta 1-0290]# pwmconfig
This program will search your sensors for pulse width modulation (pwm)
controls, and test each one to see if it controls a fan on
your motherboard. Note that many motherboards do not have pwm
circuitry installed, even if your sensor chip supports pwm.

We will attempt to briefly stop each fan using the pwm controls.
The program will attempt to restore each fan to full speed
after testing. However, it is ** very important ** that you
physically verify that the fans have been to full speed
after the program has completed.

/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, sheer blissful silence. My system hasn't been able to run the fans at anything but max speed as soon as I booted up Gentoo, but fancontrol handles it now.

With no load on the system, the CPU is 35-40C and the fan runs at 1500rpm. On full load (2x burnp6 running) the CPU is 55C and the fan runs at 2200rpm (which is appearantly the max speed for a P4 fan).

I love it. And the init script rocks, too!
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