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zortech
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 Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:33 pm Post subject: X.org experience |
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Yesterday I switched from Xfree to X.Org. I wouldn't notice any changes
if I didn't start OpenOffice (I use OpenOffice 2 build 680). The thing is:
it starts really fast. Just wondering if anybody experienced the same. |
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craftyc
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: X.org experience |
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| zortech wrote: | Yesterday I switched from Xfree to X.Org. I wouldn't notice any changes
if I didn't start OpenOffice (I use OpenOffice 2 build 680). The thing is:
it starts really fast. Just wondering if anybody experienced the same. |
I don't think that that is the doing of X.org. OOo is starting faster probably because it was still in memory.
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zortech
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: X.org experience |
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| craftyc wrote: |
I don't think that that is the doing of X.org. OOo is starting faster probably because it was still in memory. |
No, I used OOo two days ago last time. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I tried switching a couple times. Both times I had the same problem. Media keys wouldn't work on my Logitech internet keyboard and no OpenGL. I did notice some speed increments which I would have loved to be able to continue using. |
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Bonkie
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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i notice a small speed improvement, but not 00 related I think
fonts are messed up now, thats the bad part
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Bonkie wrote: | i notice a small speed improvement, but not 00 related I think
fonts are messed up now, thats the bad part |
Thats cause the fontpath changed, you ignoramus! 
The path to your fonts is now /usr/share/fonts, so just change the fontpath entries in xorg.conf and your set. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Been there, done that, a long time ago.
It must have messed up something cuz in my KDE menus the same font is almost not readable. Im not complaining or anything (havent really dug deep enough yet to find out whats wrong,other priorities) but im just saying what my experiences are.
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zortech
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I didn't have any problems with installation. Just unmerged XFree -- emerged XOrg -- copied XF86Config-4 to xorg.conf. Nvidia binary drivers are just fine,
fonts are OK too. Everything feels a bit faster.
And I even rebooted and tried again -- yes, OOo starts at least 3 times faster then it did with XFree. |
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oniq
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You're crazy  But I did get 10fps increase in glxgears -- not that I'm looking to game on my laptop or anything ;D
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When will xorg-x11 enter the x86 stable branch?
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charlieg
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My experiences have been all-good. 
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uglyb0b
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I'm not sure why X.org isn't stable yet, I've been running it for some time now and it crashes less than XFree did. Come to think of it, X.org has never crashed for me but XFree crashed completely randomly all the time. Oh well, Xorg rules.
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| Has Gentoo said whether or not they're going to standardize on X.org? |
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mastergoon
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| only annoyance i have is sometimes the deps dont work right. xorg is registered as the virtual for x11, but once in a while apps want to install xfree anyways and i have to edit the ebuild. |
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| Shaman wrote: | | Has Gentoo said whether or not they're going to standardize on X.org? |
Yes, eventually. They promptly rejected the new license.
| mastergoon wrote: | | only annoyance i have is sometimes the deps dont work right. xorg is registered as the virtual for x11, but once in a while apps want to install xfree anyways and i have to edit the ebuild. |
Sounds like good things to report as bugs.
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Personally, I've had no real problems with Xorg except having to run 'opengl-update xorg-x11', which appears to have been fixed in more recent versions of the ebuild and opengl-update.
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craftyc
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| mastergoon wrote: | | only annoyance i have is sometimes the deps dont work right. xorg is registered as the virtual for x11, but once in a while apps want to install xfree anyways and i have to edit the ebuild. |
You may find doing an "emerge inject x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r5" a wee bit easier.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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had no problems with X.org
in fact it fixed font anti-aliasing in programs for free!!!
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| Shaman wrote: | | Has Gentoo said whether or not they're going to standardize on X.org? |
I don't think Gentoo has a standard, but it has a selection. I think that it should change dependencies, but it doesn't need to be Xfree.
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