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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 8:50 am    Post subject: G5 running at half speed? Reply with quote

Could those of you running gentoo on G5 boxes please post their cpuinfo? Here's what I get:
Code:
$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor             : 0
cpu                       : PPC970, altivec supported
clock                     : 1800MHz
revision                 : 2.2 (pvr 0039 0202)
bogomips             : 872.44
machine               : PowerMac7,2
motherboard       : PowerMac7,2 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh
detected as         : 336 (PowerMac G5)
pmac flags          : 00000000
L2 cache              : 512K unified
memory               : 512MB
pmac-generation : NewWorld

I followed another tread here which makes me suspect that my G5 is running at half speed. I recompiled the kernel a few times, but no combination (with or without CPUFREQ etc.) changed this behavior. Could you check whether your specs are different? Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get this and im running a dual 2ghz!! why does it only show one processor??

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processor       : 0
cpu             : PPC970, altivec supported
clock           : 2000MHz
revision        : 2.2 (pvr 0039 0202)
bogomips        : 1331.20

processor       : 1
cpu             : PPC970, altivec supported
clock           : 2000MHz
revision        : 2.2 (pvr 0039 0202)
bogomips        : 1331.20

total bogomips  : 2662.40
machine         : PowerMac7,2
motherboard     : PowerMac7,2 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh
detected as     : 336 (PowerMac G5)
pmac flags      : 00000000
L2 cache        : 512K unified
memory          : 0MB
pmac-generation : NewWorld
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhm, no offense, but counting up to two isn't that hard? processor 0 + processor 1 = 2 processors. Both running at a bit more than half speed (bogomips : 1331.20). Mmmmh... anyone else observing this?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

:) processor 0 is the 1st processor, processor 1 is the second one. BTW: You don't even have to look at /proc/cpuinfo. If two penguins appear at the begging of your boot process then the kernel rtecognizes two processors. My kernel, being a ppc64 one, also recognizes two processors.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pindar wrote:
Uhm, no offense, but counting up to two isn't that hard? processor 0 + processor 1 = 2 processors. Both running at a bit more than half speed (bogomips : 1331.20). Mmmmh... anyone else observing this?


you have every right to say that!! :) i was pretty dumb there!!! thanks for pointing that out....
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm resurrecting this defunct thread. I was hoping that things might change with kernel 2.6.8, but no dice -- I still get only half speed, if cpuinfo is correct. Can anyone running gentoo on a G5 report if there getting the same results and whether they think this is a real issue or just a misconfiguration in cpuinfo? Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi.

For one thing, I would not rely on the bogomips value as a speed indicator (for instance Pentium class chips do nothing really fast as in twice on each clock tick, whereas 32-bit PPC do nothing about one time per clock tick). This being said, I used to have the same bogomips values some time ago, but they disappeared from /etc/cpuinfo with an upgrade to some 2.6.7 kernel don't remember which one (currently running 2.6.8-gentoo-r3). I now get:
Code:
< turing:~ > cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0
cpu             : PPC970, altivec supported
clock           : 2000.000000MHz
revision        : 2.2
 
processor       : 1
cpu             : PPC970, altivec supported
clock           : 2000.000000MHz
revision        : 2.2
 
timebase        : 33333333
machine         : PowerMac7,2
motherboard     : PowerMac7,2 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh
detected as     : 336 (PowerMac G5)
pmac flags      : 00000000
pmac-generation : NewWorld

The machine feels like running at full speed, but I did not do anything in terms of real (or even bogus ;) ) benchmarking.

My about $0.02.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, this sounds like the bogomips value is - well, bogus. What kind of stuff od you have in your kernel in terms of "frequency scaling" etc.? I suspect that this might be an issue.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny you ask, now that I look at it I do not have any option in terms of governors on PPC64 (as opposed to my other, PPC32 machine). I do not have anything special with regard to scaling or for that matter performance in my config, about the only thing that may be significant is that I have the obvious CONFIG_PPC_PMAC (Platform support -> Apple PowerMac G5 support) set.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmh, me neither:
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# CONFIG_CPU_FREQ is not set

But you appear to be running your G5 with ppc64, could that be the difference?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pindar wrote:
But you appear to be running your G5 with ppc64, could that be the difference?


Yes, it could explain the lack of scaling options, and if I am not mistaken the bogomips report in /etc/cpuinfo disappeared precisely when I switched to a 64-bit kernel. As for performance, I was notified by a user in the old, 32-bit days about the performance of the machine which was not as it should be, but almost immediately after the said note I switched to 64 bits (and then I compiled GCC in about half an hour--all of this being said, the machine does seem snappier with a 64-bit install).

Of course, all of this is guessing, I did not quite do anything about it.

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<nitpicking>I like your signature, but shouldn't it be "quidquid Latine est dictum"? quisquis doesn't take the subjunctive in classical Latin.</nitpicking>


Why, thanks, my Latin is not precisely stellar, feel free to pick at my signature (I will appreciate it and implement changes).
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