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madtomkidd Apprentice
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 170 Location: Dayton, OH
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:24 pm Post subject: Modem showing up as a sound device - ARRGGHH! |
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Ok,
This might sound innocuous, but this is realyl a big pain.
Basically, for some reason, I believe that the system is recognizing my modem as a sound device. Since this is the first device it picks up, I wasn't getting sound.
The only way I was able to find this out was the gnome volume control comes up with two tabs - my "ali 5451 [Alsa Mixer]" but this is the second tab.
The first tab says - "Conexant, Cx20468 rev1, Conexant [Audio Mixer (OSS)]"
My system is the HP ze4145, amd 1800+, igp320m with a conexant software modem.
So, any ideas how to get around this? |
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jkcunningham l33t
Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 649 Location: 47.49N 121.79W
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Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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what does lspci say? And lsmod? |
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madtomkidd Apprentice
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 170 Location: Dayton, OH
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:04 am Post subject: |
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lspci:
Code: | bash-2.05b# lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc AGP Bridge [IGP 320M] (rev 13)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc PCI Bridge [IGP 320M] (rev 01)
0000:00:02.0 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 02)
0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: ALi Corporation M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge [Aladdin IV]
0000:00:08.0 Modem: ALi Corporation M5457 AC'97 Modem Controller
0000:00:0a.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6912 Cardbus Controller
0000:00:10.0 IDE interface: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c4)
0000:00:11.0 Bridge: ALi Corporation M7101 Power Management Controller [PMU]
0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller
0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility U1
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lsmod:
Code: | bash-2.05b# lsmod
Module Size Used by
snd_pcm_oss 48744 0
snd_mixer_oss 17280 1 snd_pcm_oss
radeon 130532 2
nls_cp437 5376 1
vfat 11264 1
fat 38592 1 vfat
usbhid 23232 0
usb_storage 26496 0
scsi_mod 63740 1 usb_storage
uhci_hcd 28496 0
snd_ali5451 20424 0
snd_ac97_codec 63492 1 snd_ali5451
snd_pcm 81864 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_ali5451
snd_page_alloc 9032 1 snd_pcm
snd_timer 20356 1 snd_pcm
snd 46500 6 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_ali5451,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 7072 1 snd
natsemi 20832 0
ide_cd 38560 0
cdrom 36956 0
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the reason i know the conexant should be the modem is that's what it shows up as in windows...
if you have any ideas...i'm open to try anything! |
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jkcunningham l33t
Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 649 Location: 47.49N 121.79W
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Wow - that's a weird one. It looks like its seeing the hardware alright, and loading the correct driver. What does dmesg say? |
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fafhrd Retired Dev
Joined: 14 May 2002 Posts: 431 Location: Williamstown, MA
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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well, you're not out of luck, I believe ...
see, your modem is a winmodem (a "software modem" named such that it probably only works under windows). what that means is that software takes care of a lot of the work that real modems do in hardware. While strange to think about it, that means the in reality, your winmodem is actually a sound card, that happens to have a phone jack on the end, and not the normal audio connectors.
usually, or at least, classically, you'd be SOL; however, lately, a large class of audio chipsets (which even the windows modem driver talks to) suddenly became supported under Linux. Mine is the intel8x0m on ALSA (m for modem).
As long as you have kernel 2.6 (don't know what exact rev, but I'm running gentoo-2.6.5-r1, you can compile support for your chipset in. In my case, with the intel8x0 chipset, there was an entire other module for it -- this may not be your case for the ALi chipset.
Now, all you need is the net-dialup/slmodem package in portage, but it has to be the 2.9.X series to support the newest kernel mods. You can add a line line
Code: | net-dialup/slmodem ~x86 | to /etc/portage/package.keywords, and portage will use the testing version of that package.
Also, you may have to run Code: | FEATURES="-sandbox" emerge slmodem | if running kernel 2.6 ... there's a problem with external modules being built trying to write tmp files to /usr/src/linux ... just don't turn that sandbox off permanently! _________________ jñanam bandha |
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madtomkidd Apprentice
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 170 Location: Dayton, OH
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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ok... here's the REALLY weird thing... i just finished my install of kde3.2.2 and the problem doesn't exist here.
So, it looks like gnome is picking up my modem as the primary sound device (even though the alsa config doesn't have it listed) but KDE is correctly detecting ONLY the sound card portion.
fafhrd:
I guess I understand emerging the programs you've listed... but what am I supposed to do with them then?
I'm confused. |
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fafhrd Retired Dev
Joined: 14 May 2002 Posts: 431 Location: Williamstown, MA
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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oh, i thought you wanted to use the modem, too, that's all you just wanted to make it not show up as a sound card as well, my bad
i use mine very infrequently, but i use it... _________________ jñanam bandha |
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madtomkidd Apprentice
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 170 Location: Dayton, OH
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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no prob... i have only used the modem on here 2 times in the 1.5 years i've owned it... so, that's not such a concern.
I really just need my sound to work... so i need gnome to ignore it... if you have ideas there.. let me know! |
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jkcunningham l33t
Joined: 28 Apr 2003 Posts: 649 Location: 47.49N 121.79W
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:01 am Post subject: |
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How about pulling it out? |
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BigBaaadBob Guru
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 342 Location: Swampscott, MA USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 1:48 am Post subject: |
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jkcunningham wrote: | How about pulling it out? | You can't pull it out. It is part of the Laptop's chipset. Incidentally, in case you didn't guess, I have the same problem with a ZE4610. It is especially bad for me because I can't get the mixer to work with my USB headset, apparently because the slot taken by this conexant device prevents the mixer from working with the USB headset! Very annoying because I can't find out where the gnome-volume-control gets the idea that hardware is working! Anyone? |
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madtomkidd Apprentice
Joined: 13 Jan 2003 Posts: 170 Location: Dayton, OH
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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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that is correct... i can't just "pull it out" though I would like to!
I didn't like this solution, but somehow... kde doesn't suffer from the same problem. Kde comes up and plays its "bootup" sounds just fine, without any intervention. So, i'm starting to wonder if this is more of a gnome bug than anything else.
As a side note, i can't seem to get sound working in my neverwinter nights install... i am not sure if it's related, but it seems to be.
I'm going to do some googling and see if this is a more widespread issue. |
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BigBaaadBob Guru
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 342 Location: Swampscott, MA USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Any results of the googling? I can't find anything and I still can't get my USB headset working. It works fine on my desktop. |
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madtomkidd Apprentice
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Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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I did submit a bug report... and the response is that they wanted to check with the UI type folks... because whichever developer replied was a bit of a goober and said "functions as designed" basically.
So, there is still not resolution... and I've switched to KDE... because it's working. Not my preferred solution... but it works for now |
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moat n00b
Joined: 05 Nov 2002 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 3:40 am Post subject: |
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I am having the exact same problem. Gnome sound mixer shows 2 sound cards one Sigmatel STAC9721/23 OSS Mixer and the other ESS ES1978 (Maestro 2E) Alsa mixer.
I known the ESS is my sound card and I guess the Sigmatel is my modem but I have not set anything for it up. How's it even working?
I remember when setting up sound card was hard, now it's finding ones I don't even want and setting them up automatically
Moat |
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