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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:13 am    Post subject: Radeon 9600 underperforming? Reply with quote

Hi,
I have a Radeon 9600SE which I only recently got working but i'm not sure my setup is doing it justice. I am using the development-sources 2.6.6 kernel as it's the only one I could get to work with my card properly and ati-drivers-3.2.8-r1.

My desktop is setup to 24-bit colour and is running at a resolution of 1024x768.

Here is the output from glxgears:
Code:
4449 frames in 5.0 seconds = 889.800 FPS
4642 frames in 5.0 seconds = 928.400 FPS
4636 frames in 5.0 seconds = 927.200 FPS
4632 frames in 5.0 seconds = 926.400 FPS
4643 frames in 5.0 seconds = 928.600 FPS


And the output from glxinfo:
Code:
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
client glx vendor string: ATI
client glx version string: 1.3
client glx extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context,
    GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float,
    GLX_ATI_render_texture
GLX extensions:
    GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Radeon 9600SE Athlon (3DNow!)
OpenGL version string: 1.3 (X4.3.0-3.2.8)
OpenGL extensions:
    GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array,
    GL_S3_s3tc, GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_fragment_program,
    GL_ARB_multisample, GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_shadow,
    GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
    GL_ARB_texture_compression, GL_ARB_texture_cube_map,
    GL_ARB_texture_env_add, GL_ARB_texture_env_combine,
    GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar, GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3,
    GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat, GL_ARB_transpose_matrix,
    GL_ARB_vertex_blend, GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object, GL_ARB_vertex_program,
    GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_ATI_draw_buffers, GL_ATI_element_array,
    GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap, GL_ATI_fragment_shader, GL_ATI_map_object_buffer,
    GL_ATI_separate_stencil, GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3,
    GL_ATI_texture_float, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once,
    GL_ATI_vertex_array_object, GL_ATI_vertex_attrib_array_object,
    GL_ATI_vertex_streams, GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3,
    GL_ATIX_texture_env_route, GL_ATIX_vertex_shader_output_point_size,
    GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate,
    GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint,
    GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord, GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays,
    GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters, GL_EXT_rescale_normal,
    GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_secondary_color,
    GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap,
    GL_EXT_texgen_reflection, GL_EXT_texture3D,
    GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc, GL_EXT_texture_cube_map,
    GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine,
    GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic,
    GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object, GL_EXT_texture_rectangle,
    GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_EXT_vertex_shader, GL_HP_occlusion_test,
    GL_NV_texgen_reflection, GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_occlusion_query,
    GL_SGI_color_matrix, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp,
    GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_lod,
    GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap, GL_SGIS_multitexture, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
    GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess
 
   visual  x  bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer  ms  cav
 id dep cl sp sz l  ci b ro  r  g  b  a bf th cl  r  g  b  a ns b eat
----------------------------------------------------------------------
0x23 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  1 0 None
0x24 24 tc  0 24  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  1 0 None
0x25 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  0 16 16 16 16  1 0 None
0x26 24 tc  0 24  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  0 16 16 16 16  1 0 None
0x27 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  1 0 None
0x28 24 tc  0 24  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  1 0 None
0x29 24 tc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  0  0  0  0  0  1 0 None
0x2a 24 tc  0 24  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  0  0  0  0  0  1 0 None
0x2b 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  1 0 None
0x2c 24 dc  0 24  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8 16 16 16 16  1 0 None
0x2d 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  0 16 16 16 16  1 0 None
0x2e 24 dc  0 24  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  0 16 16 16 16  1 0 None
0x2f 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  1 0 None
0x30 24 dc  0 24  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  8  0  0  0  0  1 0 None
0x31 24 dc  0 24  0 r  y  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  0  0  0  0  0  1 0 None
0x32 24 dc  0 24  0 r  .  .  8  8  8  8  0 24  0  0  0  0  0  1 0 None


Here are links to my XF86Config and XFree86.0.log.

Any help with getting my card to perform better (if this is at all possible) would be great.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couple of things

glxgears isn't really a good benchmark tool, install quake3 or something and benchmark it to see if you're getting decent numbers

the ati drivers are pretty downlevel (3.9.0 are the latest), I don't use an ati card myself but I've been keeping an eye on the drivers as I'm thinking about getting one, that might be a factor but don't quote me on it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, glxgears is a really bad benchmark, but something seems a little off here. You've got the ATi drivers calling for external AGPGART, so maybe check that it's enabled in the kernel (I'd make it built-in instead of a module, that's all that worked for my nForce2). Also, I would try the newest (3.9.0) drivers:
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ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge ati-drivers

(don't forget to reload the module and restart X)
There was a noticable speed increase for my 8500 going from 3.2.8 to 3.9.0 (ymmv). But yeah, emerge some game(s) and check if actual performance is ok before you mess with too much.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have tried the latest ATI drivers but according to their website they don't run on the 2.6 kernel. Is there a workaround for this?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know why they say that. I have them (3.9.0) working great under the 2.6.5-gentoo kernel with my 8500. I'd say just try it, easy to go back if they don't work.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just emerged the quake3-demo to check my actual performance and i'm getting between 100-300fps with the fps cap set to 99999 although this causes the game to run very jerkily.

Without my raising the fps cap it was running smoothly at ~90fps. Is this very low?

I noticed some mtrr errors in my dmesg so i'm going to try to fix them and see if that helps.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

90 fps in Q3 is pretty good (depends on what resolution/detail settings you have). That's more than playable and will hopefully be similar in most games.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had set all the graphics details to the higest setting. Nothing much came of changing mtrr settings so I guess everything was okay after all.

Thanks for your help :)
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