ATI DRIVERS SUCKS!

marcowave · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:20 pm Post subject: ATI DRIVERS SUCKS!

I am very angry because of the new release of ati drivers 3.9.0... :evil:

I don't understand why the 3.2.8 version is better then the 3.7 and 3.9....

In UT2004 I have an average of 60 FPS vith 3.2.8 and an average of 20 with 3.9

And I don't understand why the lastest version has been included in the default portage....
I believe that the ATI drivers developers are making bad drivers because in this way a lot of people will come back to winzozz for gaming...

The 3.2.8 release was near windows in performace... why the are going back?
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uncrfe · n00b Joined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 5

You're not running stable....the 'default' portage includes 3.2.8-r1.

nizar · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:41 pm Post subject:

Yes they SUCKS... :evil:

Keeping my GeForce FX 5200.

marcowave · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject:

Epyon · l33t Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 754 Location: NJ, USA

The ATI drivers suck badly. My next card is going to be nvidia.

marcowave · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:29 am Post subject:

jknutson · n00b Joined: 30 Apr 2004 Posts: 63

Just curious as to the people who think the drivers suck, do you enable anti-aliasing, vsync or other options like that? I only ask because I have no performance problems with them, although I have an older card (8500 -- porformance actually improved for me with the 3.9.0 drivers) and I disable antialiasing, vsync, etc.

Thanks.

HydroSan · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:48 am Post subject:

marcowave · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 7:52 am Post subject:

probably 8500 card is older... and more supported...

9600,9700,9800,pro,XT with 3.9 run very bad..... with 3.2.8 I just say that they have a 60 % of windows performance.

with 3.9 a 20 % I think....
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MaxDamage · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:37 am Post subject:

And don't forget the crappy texture compression algorithm. Games looked pretty good with 3.2.8 but... any newer driver makes them look like crap!

Whi they don't edit the ati-drivers-3.2.8 ebuild to depend in x11 virtual instead of x11-xfree. I have X.org's installed and it's a pain in the ass having Xfree wanting to come back every time! :evil:

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Twink · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:34 pm Post subject:

Zyne · Guru Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 334

so you're all saying that the 3.2.8 are better then 3.9.0?
damn... I just finishe dinstalling the 3.9.0 a few days ago. I was working without a 3D renderer until then (yes, yougot me... I'm a n00b...

).

I actually installed the sources of the 3.9.0 though... Removing them now, and emergin 3.2.8 :p

thanks for the advice!

edit: ok, with 3.2.8r1 I was getting max 80 fps in glxgears
with 3.2.9r1 I get 1800-2000fps
point proven I guess

btw my card is an ati radeon 9000 Pro (more then enough for my needs)

MaxDamage · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject:

Ranthog · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 99

On my computer the 3.9 drivers run at 2024FPS compared to 16000FPS on the old ones.

I have a Radeon 8500 (9000 is just a slightly slower 8500).

I've known more people who had trouble getting their NVidia drivers working under linux than the ATI drivers. The ATI drivers simply just work (emerge ati-drivers, fglxconfig, opengl-update ati) with little or no work.

I'd suggest making sure your configuration is correct. Did you run the automatic XFree configuration tools? Are your Open GL settings done up right (update-openGL ati)?

Vadatajs · Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 12:15 am Post subject:

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Mythos · l33t Joined: 02 May 2004 Posts: 953 Location: Portugal

at the first i had many problems with ati-drivers, but now with an updated xorg-x11 my perfomance improved more 10 fps or more in enemy-territory for example...

are your x with this configure:

# === OpenGL specific profiles/settings ===
Option "Capabilities" "0x00000000"

some one help me with this and my ati improved perfomance too, but with new xorg-x11 my ati is even better!
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Pigeon · Guru Joined: 21 Jun 2002 Posts: 307

bluebubbles · n00b Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Posts: 3

While people are on this, what programs are good for benchmarking 3D performances anyways? Games like Quake 3? Does tuxracer do?

Thanks.

OOZafle · Apprentice Joined: 19 May 2004 Posts: 150

Rapsey · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 87

i have between 5-10 fps more in enemy territory on linux with nvidia's GFFX 5900.

Ranthog · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 11 Jun 2003 Posts: 99

marcowave · Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 7:56 pm Post subject:

Hase · n00b Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 64

Is it suggested that I switch back to an older version of the ati drivers or should I just stick with 3.9? I only use 3d rendering with Enemy Territory. If I do switch back, do I need to change any other settings (is the mod still fglrx, is xf86config-4 still valid, etc.)?

Thanks!

Wedge_ · Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject:

You should be able to switch back with no trouble. There are a few extra options in the config file for newer drivers, but any unrecognised options will be ignored, so you can use the same file for both version.
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