Reiser4 enabled LiveCDv2 - Release Notes

[Redeeman]

i dont need one right now - if i need one some time, i will tell ypu

[ledskof]

Rdeeman,
What about smbmount?
can't mount -t smbfs without smbmount and mount.smbfs -> /wherever/smbmount

[wrc1944]

Redeeman,
If we already have a working reiser4 system, based on your previous work, can we just update libaal and reiser4progs, and build the new Redeeman kernel afterwords, and be at the same point we would be at if we did a completely new install using the new live-cd? Or, it is going to be necessary to do a completely new reiser4 install? In my case, I have reiser4 on /, /home, /var, and /data. /boot is ext3.

I did my current resier4 install on dialup, and had to download a lot of stuff with knoppix onto a spare reiser3 /data partition, then copy it to my reiser4 /. I notice there is ppp on the new live cd, but no wvdial.

Could someone give me a brief rundown on how to setup ppp/wget using the new live-cd on a fresh install, as I'd like to install from it on another box. I've never been able to get ppp to work with my ISP, except with wvdial or kppp.

Thanks much for the reiser4 work!
wrc1944
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[Redeeman]

fuck.. you caught me... i forgot samba.. i will remember on next livecd.

yes, just upgrade reise4progs and libaal, and get the kernel.. and you will be fine..

[wrc1944]

I can't seem to patch 2.6.7-mm2 with the new Redeeman4. I've followed exactly the same procedure, tried other -p options, bz2 or extracted. Before, the -p4 option worked. I'm assuming this patch is meant to be applied to 2.6.7-mm2, right after you apply the mm2 patch.

I apply the 2.6.7-mm2 patch (mm2 works fine on my other boxes), then it fails when applying the Redeeman4 patch. I've patched kernels many hundreds of times, including Redeeman reiser4 kernels, and can't figure out what's wrong, other than the patch is missing headers. I've upgraded libaal and reiser4progs to the latest versions.

In the "notes" at the Redeeman webpage, it says:

TO FIX ERRORS:
cd include
rm -fr asm
ln -s asm-i386 asm
cd ..

There is no /include/asm, either after I extract 2.6.7 vanilla, apply the mm2 patch, or try to apply the Redeeman4 patch, so what is "rm -fr asm" referring to?

Below, are a few of the errors I've gotten- never had this happen before on the Redeeman kernels. What am I doing wrong?

wrc1944
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wrc@mymachine wrc $ cd /home/wrc/kern/267mm2r4/linux-2.6.7
wrc@mymachine linux-2.6.7 $ bunzip2 -dc 2.6.7-Redeeman4.patch.bz2 | patch -p4
missing header for unified diff at line 4 of patch
can't find file to patch at input line 4
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
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|diff -Naur miscbinds/work/linux-2.6.7/.config mnt/reiser4/linux-2.6.7/.config
|--- miscbinds/work/linux-2.6.7/.config 1970-01-01 01:00:00.000000000 +0100
|+++ mnt/reiser4/linux-2.6.7/.config 2004-06-26 13:05:57.820584688 +0200
--------------------------
File to patch:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
wrc@mymachine wrc $ cd /home/wrc/kern/267mm2r4/linux-2.6.7
wrc@mymachine linux-2.6.7 $ patch < 2.6.7-Redeeman4.patch
patching file .config
patching file .config.old
patching file .version
patching file Makefile
patching file Module.symvers
can't find file to patch at input line 5461
Perhaps you should have used the -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
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|diff -Naur miscbinds/work/linux-2.6.7/arch/alpha/kernel/smp.c mnt/reiser4/linux-2.6.7/arch/alpha/kernel/smp.c
|--- miscbinds/work/linux-2.6.7/arch/alpha/kernel/smp.c 2004-06-25 20:24:29.000000000 +0200
|+++ mnt/reiser4/linux-2.6.7/arch/alpha/kernel/smp.c 2004-06-26 12:50:43.733547040 +0200
--------------------------
File to patch:
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wrc@mymachine wrc $ cd /home/wrc/kern/267mm2r4/linux-2.6.7
wrc@mymachine linux-2.6.7 $ patch -p1 < 2.6.7-Redeeman4.patch
patching file work/linux-2.6.7/.config
patching file work/linux-2.6.7/.config.old
patching file work/linux-2.6.7/.version
can't find file to patch at input line 2649
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
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|diff -Naur miscbinds/work/linux-2.6.7/Makefile mnt/reiser4/linux-2.6.7/Makefile
|--- miscbinds/work/linux-2.6.7/Makefile 2004-06-25 20:24:42.000000000 +0200
|+++ mnt/reiser4/linux-2.6.7/Makefile 2004-06-26 13:17:03.229427168 +0200
--------------------------
File to patch:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
wrc@mymachine wrc $ cd /home/wrc/kern/267mm2r4/linux-2.6.7
wrc@mymachine linux-2.6.7 $ patch -p0 < 2.6.7-Redeeman4.patch
patching file mnt/reiser4/linux-2.6.7/.config
patching file mnt/reiser4/linux-2.6.7/.config.old
patching file mnt/reiser4/linux-2.6.7/.version
can't find file to patch at input line 2649
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--------------------------
|diff -Naur miscbinds/work/linux-2.6.7/Makefile mnt/reiser4/linux-2.6.7/Makefile
|--- miscbinds/work/linux-2.6.7/Makefile 2004-06-25 20:24:42.000000000 +0200
|+++ mnt/reiser4/linux-2.6.7/Makefile 2004-06-26 13:17:03.229427168 +0200
--------------------------
File to patch:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
wrc@mymachine wrc $ cd /home/wrc/kern/267mm2r4/linux-2.6.7
wrc@mymachine linux-2.6.7 $ patch -p4 < 2.6.7-Redeeman4.patch
missing header for unified diff at line 4 of patch
can't find file to patch at input line 4
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--------------------------
|diff -Naur miscbinds/work/linux-2.6.7/.config mnt/reiser4/linux-2.6.7/.config
|--- miscbinds/work/linux-2.6.7/.config 1970-01-01 01:00:00.000000000 +0100
|+++ mnt/reiser4/linux-2.6.7/.config 2004-06-26 13:05:57.820584688 +0200
--------------------------
File to patch:

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[Redeeman]

first you apply mm2, then you apply redeeman4, now with -p3 :>

i will tell which patch level to use in the notes from now on :>

and yes, you must remove the asm dir, and do what the page says..

good night from here

[wrc1944]

Thanks Redeeman,
I'll give it another try, but I still don't get the /include/asm deal- there is no such directory, at least so far- but I haven't successfully applied the Redeeman4 patch yet, so I hope it shows up.

That would be a good idea- mentioning what patch level to use, if it has changed.

wrc1944
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kernel-6.9.1 USE=experimental python3_11

[njd5456]

two questions from me....

1)what exactly is the redeeman kernel? is it a true kernel, or just a patch for love-sources?

2)i plan on installin the livecd tomorrow and i wanted to know what do i use for a stage? does it alrdy have a stage1 tarball on it? and if not, which should i use?

thnx!!

btw, great work dude!

[wrc1944]

OK! The -p3 patch level solved all my problems! 2.6.7-mm2-Redeeman4 compiled without a hitch, and is working really great so far.

One question:
On the LWN kernel patch page, for nicks np1 patch, which I understand is included as part of Redeeman4, it says:

Make sure to give X a priority of about -10 for best results.

renice -10 `pidof X`
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I was wondering if we Redeeman4 users should be doing that too? Top reports x is niced at 0, I guess by default. Anyone tried -10 and come to any conclusions? Guess I'll give it a shot.

wrc1944
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kernel-6.9.1 USE=experimental python3_11

[njd5456]

[njd5456]

could i please have some responses to my post above?

i just really want this setup to flow along so i can get this baby kickin'!

thnx again

[taskara]

[wrc1944]

1. Redeeman4 is a patch to the 2.6.7-mm2 kernel. So you must first get the 2.6.7 kernel, extract it, and patch it wth the 2.6.7-mm2 patch, and then patch that with the 2.6.7-Redeeman4 patch.

What I do is this:

1. Extract linux-2.6.7.bz2 vanilla kernel, either in /usr/src, or my own /home/wrc/kern directory. (You can compile as user, then su to do make modules_install, mount /boot, and copy the bzImage.) If you're doing this the first time during install, just do it in /usr/src, as root to keep it simple)

2. Place 2.6.7-mm2.bz2 inside the linux-2.6.7 directory, cd to that directory, and issue:

bunzip2 -dc 2.6.7-mm2.bz2 | patch -p1

4. After it applies, place the 2.6.7-Redeeman4.patch.bz2 inside the linux-2.6.7 directory. and issue:

bunzip2 -dc 2.6.7-Redeeman4.patch.bz2 | patch -p3

(You could alternatively extract the reedeman patch there, and do:

patch -p3 < 2.6.7-Redeeman4.patch)

5. Then do make mrproper

6. Then you have to follow the notes Redeeman has written, and do:

cd /linux-2.6.7/include
rm -fr asm
ln -s asm-i386 asm
cd back to linux-2.6.7

Then you can do make menuconfig, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install, and copy the new kernel to /boot- in other words, after patching, you do a regular kernel compile, with a good config file for your hardware.
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Question 2:
I don't think the Redeeman live-cd has any stages on it to extract like the regular Gentoo live-cd (possibly a stage 1?), so it takes a little planning to get this working. I had to do it on dialup, download stuff to a spare reiser3 partition with a Knoppix cd, but if you have dsl or cable, it will be easier, as I think you can just pick up the normal install doc after getting your networking up from the Redeeman cd.

Hope this helps, as my install methods are a little weird, and I've never done a "normal" install on dsl/cable.
wrc1944
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kernel-6.9.1 USE=experimental python3_11

[taskara]

or u should be able to emerge sys-kernel/mm-sources-2.6.7-r2 and then just patch to redeeman with

[Redeeman]

the questions about redeeman-sources:
its a patch. (and wrc1944 did the correct thing with applying)

question about livecd:
true, no stages on it, you need to download them from a gentoo mirror

renice X:
yes, i suggest renice X to -15 though.

[wrc1944]

For anyone interested, I just compiled the latest reiser4 snapshot on a 2.6.7-mm2 kernel, no problems.

reiser4-2004.06.25-19.36-linux-2.6.7-mm2.diff.gz

found at:
http://namesys.com/auto-snapshots/

I didn't need to do the rm -fr asm deal (as asm wasn't there anyway), and I don't know what the differences are from Redeeman's June-23 version. It is 6kb smaller- guess they came up with some fixes of some kind.

DAMN! Just checked their site again, and there's a new one for June-28! However, nothing about it is in the changelog dated 6-28. Surely this thing is almost ready for a final release.

BTW, I've tried renicing x to -10, and -15, and I can't really tell any difference from nice=0. Maybe I don't run my systems in a manner that it would make a difference. I know the x PID changes at boot, but is there any way to have the x niceness default to -15 at boot, without having to do an su, and type it in manually? I recall that somehow, Mandrake used to default to x niceness of -10, or -20. Must be some config init file- I'll look around.

wrc1944
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kernel-6.9.1 USE=experimental python3_11

[Redeeman]

its only if you use nicksched you benefit from it..

and yes, look at the package verynice..

[wrc1944]

Thanks Redeeman,

I guess this explains why Con Kolivas recommends not renicing, and just using 0. I think he's been saying that since the first 2.6 kernels, or even before that. I've been a user of his kernels since my Mandrake days, and 2.4 kernels, and always thought they performed very well on my boxes. I've recently been using the CFQ scheduler, which is his default, and doesn't mm now default to CFQ?

So -if I understand correctly, Redeeman kernels are currently using nicksched, and if I boot with them, renicing will help (depending on my computer usage), but not if I'm using another kernel without nicksched, and in that case, I shouldn't renice. And, this holds true with whatever file system one is using.

Is this correct?

wrc1944
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kernel-6.9.1 USE=experimental python3_11

[Redeeman]

you are misunderstanding a thing, nicksched is a process scheduler, CFQ is IO scheduler...

the IO scheduler schedules the io access... (CFQ)

where the process scheduler schedules the ressources the processes should have (nicksched).

if you use nicksched, you should renice X to -15, independent of what IO scheduler you use.

[wrc1944]

Thanks for the clarification, Redeeman!

I'll repeat one other question, since nobody has responded to it yet.

I'm on dialup, and installing Gentoo has always been an ordeal, as even though the live cd's have ppp on them, I have never been able to just pop in a Gentoo cd, and setup a dialup connection off the cd. I've always had to use another distro, or a knoppix cd to download wvdial and ppp, and only after I extract a stage2 or 3, that creates /etc/ppp/ and all the files there, can I get wvdial/ppp to work.

In other words, I can't figure out how to get a dialup connection going from only the live cd, whereas it seems pretty simple if you have dsl/cable. And with the Redeeman cd, there are no stages to extract, so I had to copy a stage & portage tree from the standard 2004.1 cd to a reiser3 partition, and then copy that stuff to reiser4. (IIRC, I did use Knoppix to get the latest portage tree snapshot). Anyway, it still wasn't totally functional, but at least I could get wvdial/ppp up, and begin emerging needed stuff. That eventually worked for a reiser4 install, but took forever.

I guess my question is:
Can anyone give me a clear explanation of how a ppp connection is done off the live cd, without having to jump through all the hoops with knoppix, other partitions, and/or other distros?

I only have one cdrom on each of my boxes. What I'd like to be able to figure out is how to pop in a Gentoo live-cd, setup ppp, and do a stage1 install, just like somebody with dsl/cable can. I must be missing something, or can't this even be done?

It's even more of a chore trying to do a reiser4 install, as knoppix or all other live-cds I've investigated (and I've looked hard for one) can't mount, read, or write to reiser4 partitions. I've had to manipulate/copy packages from my spare reiser3 partition, which with dialup and hundreds of packages, quickly becomes a nightmare. If Knoppix or another live-cd with dialup connection support had reiser4 support, I'd be all set, but AFAIK, there isn't one existing, as yet- unless I'm missing something obvious about the Redeeman cd. Any help out there?

Thanks,
wrc1944
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kernel-6.9.1 USE=experimental python3_11

[Redeeman]

pppd should be able to.

[Wedge_]

[thechris]

ok, i need a kernel or how to patch one.

xx-sources fails on manual config and in genkernel.
redeeman sources can't be downloaded and is thus out.
love-sources still is only at 2.6.7_rc3, i haven't tried this yet.

mm sources and other sources don't have reiser4 support which i need for /tmp and /var.

anyone have any ideas. i have a kernel panic thread in the kernel section detailing my attempts at getting xx-sources to work and having it fail. in short genkernel and disabling APCI both failed.

[wrc1944]

Thanks much Wedge_,
I'll give it a try- sounds like it will work fine.


thechris,

You can patch the vanilla 2.6.7 with mm2, and then patch that with the latest reiser4 patch from namesys (or Redeeman4), as I described above- worked fine for me. Also, first update reiser4progs and libaal with emerge. If you need more details, post back.

wrc1944
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kernel-6.9.1 USE=experimental python3_11

[Redeeman]

surely my sources can be downloaded... i just made a new release.

wedge: how come you aint on irc anymore?