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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got the ebuild for r3 and it fails.

i'll try the redeeman4 patch now.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about Redeeman5? ;P
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice CD! Was able to convert to Reiser4 without any issues. The new filesystem is doing completely fine, but it hasn't really been "tested" (power outage) yet. Reiser3 was good, but couldn't always handle the hard crashes; one time it actually corrupted the filesystem (though in a very minor way where I couldn't remove a directory).

Possible things of interest for the future...

1) Hopefully the BadRAM (http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/download.html) patch can be included in the kernel for those of us who need to bypass a bad address. Did note the LiveCD included the new Memtest+ -- very nice!

2) Inclusion of the dar utility (emerge dar). It permits one to make and restore multi-volume archives. For the LiveCD, only /usr/bin/dar_static is needed to keep bloat under control. (When doing CD work from a LiveCD, it is necessary to pass the "docache" option to the kernel so that the LiveCD can be unmounted and ejected. However, it means everything goes to memory.)

3) Related to #2 and quite minor: inclusion of the CD utilities (cdrecord/mkisofs). Helps with archiving, but a user can always adjust the library path and run the programs from the hard drive. (#2 is more important because we might be restoring an entire hard drive from CDs or DVDs.)

4) Noticed the framebuffer kernel didn't work here with an NForce2 motherboard (Asus A7N8X) and an ATI 9700 video card. Fortunately the non-fb kernel was available.

Thanks again for the very up-to-date LiveCD!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tried redeeman5 with genkernel -- i get issues with i think it was alloc.c with things like __small_alloc or __small_malloc. i'll try a manual compile next.

this is with gcc3.4, so i'm not ruling that out, but i would assume since you can compile the kernel and its listed that you use gcc3.4 that the issue is resolvable. i'm going to try to jerryrig this now -- move /tmp and /var to a different hard disk and try using vanilla or gentoo dev sources without reiser4.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

redeeman, you have mentioned this version of LiveCD has iteraid patched. However, I use this LiveCD to boot in my PC with ITE Raid, ITE Raid is not detected.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redeeman,
Thought you might like to know- I've also been unable to reach your "sources" site for 2 days now. I could reach the lamda site, and got the new live-cd iso in a marathon dialup download session.

An error occurred while loading http://kaspersandberg.com/~redeeman/Redeeman-Sources/:

Timeout on server
Connection was to kaspersandberg.com at port 80

This happens at all times, day or night.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, a manual compile almost boots -- ithas issues with kernel RAID1. i'll doublecheck the config. it got the RAID0 for the root fs just fine. what is ironic is that the raid1 partition was supposed to be the "always there" thing...

edited fstab and raidtab rebooted.

DHCP still takes 2 minutes to fail... i need to figure out what part of the script fails. i'm thinking of making my own initscript to _ACTUALLY_ bring up eth0 with dhcp. but this happens on the liveCD and every gentoo install AND with other distros. so i guess i'm fine there... from my understanding it is a IRQ issue as all other "netmount" solutions have failed.

and now it does boot, which is good. and tulip loads. so far so good. i guess this is the first time genkernel has ever left me down!

edit--update i compiled raid1 as a module. so that issue is resolved. i changed /etc/init.d/net.eth0 and that should fix that issue as well. at least i hope it does. right now i'm compiling xfree becuase last time i used xorg with 2.6.7 and nvidia 5336 i had issues with hardlocking. not sure if it was xorg's fault or 2.6.7 or 5336, but since i've heard the switch from xfree to xorg isn't hard, i figure i could just go with what worked in the past.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wedge_,
Sorry, I still have some questions:

Regarding the 2nd file, you say "Put this in /etc/ppp/peers (remember to give it the same name as used in the previous file)."

Since the first file is placed in /etc/ppp/peers, and named "yourISP," how can I place another file there, and name it exactly the same thing?

Also, shouldn't:

OK "ATDTphonenumberhere"
"ogin:" "username"
"word:" "password"
"otocol:" ppp"

actually be:

OK "ATDTphonenumberhere"
"login:" "username"
"password:" "password"
"protocol:" ppp"

Was this a typo?
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All that I have in /etc/ppp/peers are 2 files:

wvdial, consisting only of:

noauth
name wvdial
usepeerdns
--------------------------------------
And, wvdial-pipe, consisting of:

noauth
name wvdial

plugin passwordfd.so

defaultroute
replacedefaultroute
----------------------------------------------------
And of course I also have an /etc/wvdial.conf file:

[Dialer Defaults]
Modem = /dev/ttyS0
Baud = 115200
Init1 = ATZ
Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0
ISDN = 0
Modem Type = Analog Modem
Phone = 3840323
Username = flacycads
Password = xxxxxx
Stupid Mode = 2

Which has some items you have in your 2nd file.

What about the ip-up, ip-down, chap/pap secrets, chat-default files in /etc/ppp?
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My chat-defaults file looks like this:

# /etc/ppp/chat-default:
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/net-dialup/ppp/files/2.4.2/chat-default,v 1.1 2004/02/12 20:25:27 lanius Exp $

'ABORT' 'BUSY'
'ABORT' 'ERROR'
'ABORT' 'NO ANSWER'
'ABORT' 'NO CARRIER'
'ABORT' 'NO DIALTONE'
'ABORT' 'Invalid Login'
'ABORT' 'Login incorrect'
'' 'ATZ'
'OK' 'ATDT$NUMBER'
'CONNECT' ''
'TIMEOUT' '5'
'~--' ''
----------------------------------------------------------
Needless to say, all this is a bit confusing, and I don't see how it's going to work, if I follow your instructions exactly.

BTW, I had to edit ip-up, adding the chmod 644 line, because the new ppp rewrites the /etc/resolv.conf file permissions at every reboot, so that you can't connect to any website as user. Like this:

one
cp -a $REALRESOLVCONF $REALRESOLVCONF.pppd-backup
mv $REALRESOLVCONF.tmp $REALRESOLVCONF
chmod 644 $REALRESOLVCONF

fi

I guess I still don't understand how ppp is going to connect, without all the info in these other files in /etc/ppp that you didn't mention.

Thanks,
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redeeman wrote:
wedge: how come you aint on irc anymore? :)

I've been pretty busy with uni work and exams for a while, so I didn't have much time to hang around #love-sources :) I'll try and remember to drop in sometime.

@wrc1944:
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Regarding the 2nd file, you say "Put this in /etc/ppp/peers (remember to give it the same name as used in the previous file)."

Since the first file is placed in /etc/ppp/peers, and named "yourISP," how can I place another file there, and name it exactly the same thing?

Sorry, that wasn't very clear. If you look at the last line of the first file, it says "connect '/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/peers/yourISP_chat'". What I meant was to make sure you named the second file the same as the the parameter in that line, ie "/etc/ppp/peers/yourISP_chat", so that it will get called correctly.

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Also, shouldn't:

OK "ATDTphonenumberhere"
"ogin:" "username"
"word:" "password"
"otocol:" ppp"

actually be:

OK "ATDTphonenumberhere"
"login:" "username"
"password:" "password"
"protocol:" ppp"

Was this a typo?

No, that's deliberate - it matches on the end of the string so that you don't need to worry about case. If your ISP happened to return "Login:" instead of "login:", using "login:" "username" would fail, but "ogin:" "username" matches both "Login:" and "login:". The others are the same.

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Needless to say, all this is a bit confusing, and I don't see how it's going to work, if I follow your instructions exactly.
...
I guess I still don't understand how ppp is going to connect, without all the info in these other files in /etc/ppp that you didn't mention.

You shouldn't have to edit any of the files in /etc/ppp (I didn't :)), and can ignore anything else in /etc/ppp/peers apart from the two files you create yourself. All I did was:
  • Create /etc/ppp/peers/yourISP as above
  • Create /etc/ppp/peers/yourISP_chat as above
  • Code:
    pppd call yourISP

and it dialed up and connected.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ITEraid:
i patched the kernel. :)

reach sources:
its viewable from ~12:00 - 02:30 GMT+1 most likely...
dammit, i will upload to mirror soon :)

thechris:
dont dont dont use genkernel... its evil, and besides, it disallows udev with the evil initrd :D
anyway, i always compile my kernel with 3.4, and it works perfect..

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btw, dont panic if the ebuild does not work, theres very high chance my ebuilds does not work as i do not use them myself.. but check for a type in the fetch url if it does not :)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again, Wedge_!

That really clarifies it for me- much appreciated.

So- let me summarize, to be absolutely sure I understand.

I create these files with nano, NOT in the chrooted /mnt/gentoo environment, but in the Redeeman live-cd environment, which is loaded into RAM.

In other words, the Redeeman cd, like Knoppix, has it's own /etc directory loaded into ram, and I can edit/add the needed files there, and connect just like I do with a knoppix live-cd with kppp (which is loaded to ram), but instead of the gui kppp, I'm using the pure command line pppd method, as you've described.

Then, once connected, I can chroot over to the Gentoo environment, and proceed with downloading/emerging into my reiser4 Gentoo system.

Have I finally got it correct?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wrc1944 wrote:
Thanks again, Wedge_!

That really clarifies it for me- much appreciated.

So- let me summarize, to be absolutely sure I understand.
....
Have I finally got it correct?

That sounds fine. The only other thing I ran into is that the /dev nodes for serial ports didn't seem to be created by default. On my current install they seem to be under /dev/tts/, but that doesn't appear in /dev on the CD. To create a /dev node for the first serial port, run
Code:
mknod /dev/modem c 4 64

Remember to update /etc/ppp/peers/yourISP with whatever name you use for the port.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redeeman wrote:
what about Redeeman5? ;P

Is that an ebuild I see >>> sys-kernel/redeeman-sources-2.6.7-r5 merged 8)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got the kernel working. i can boot, but Xfree hardlocks when i use nvidia. i can get 320x240x8bit on the vga module. i had similar issues with gcc3.3+xorg+gnome+nvidia. a fuller explanation of the issue is in the desktop enviroment section.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have found a reproducable error, which I think is reiser4 related.

After extracting a stage tarball and emerge syncing, the next thing I do is exit the chroot and copy over the distfiles (1.3 gigs) from my other Gentoo installation. xterm, or whatever console I'm using freezes when I execute the cp command, and Ctrl+C doesn't work.

It's happened all three times I've tried reiser4, and never when I use reiserfs or xfs.

Has anybody been able to copy more than a gig of files to reiser4 from another filesystem all at once? And/or more than 700 files at once? Can somebody try it, I hope it's not just me (what could I be doing wrong?)

EDIT: If I cd to the directory I was trying to copy to on the reiser4 partition, and type ls, it freezes the same way. It also happens if I try to rm -R the directory. umount won't unmount it, instead it complains that the filesystem is busy (and yet it isn't because I've closed everything that could be accessing it and cd-ed out of the mount point).

EDIT #2: This time I was using libaal-0.5.2, reiser4progs-0.5.5, 2.6.7-mm4 patched with reiser4-2004.06.30-19.37-linux-2.6.7-mm4.diff from http://www.namesys.com/auto-snapshots/. I was using an older kernel (about 2.6.5, I think it was redeeman's kernel) the other two times this happened.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes... reiser4 related.. this bug was fixed, seems it came again
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I'm booting with this livecd on my old Dell Latitude laptop my kernel hangs at "Freeing unused kernel memory: xxx".

I've searched around about it but haven't found anything that seems to do with it. I have also tried booting with most of the kernel parameters, such as "nodetect". Any suggestions of what can be done about it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redeeman wrote:
yes... reiser4 related.. this bug was fixed, seems it came again

Hmmm, is Linux 2.6.7-Redeeman5 free of that bug? Where can I download it?
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i have latest snapshot in redeeman6
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Redeeman wrote:
i have latest snapshot in redeeman6

Ok, how do I get it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

download it off http://kaspersandberg.com/~redeeman/Redeeman-Sources/2.6.7/2.6.7-Redeeman6
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does redeeman6 apply to 2.6.7-mm4, or mm5, and still use -p3? There's nothing in the notes about this.

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take redeeman7 :P

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against 2.6.7-mm5
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redeeman wrote:
ITEraid:
i patched the kernel. :)


Do you mean only Redeeman-Sources has ITEraid patched but not the kernel in this version of LiveCD?
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