dev-sources?

scharkalvin · Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject: dev-sources?

OK how much longer will the 2.6 kernel source ebuilds be listed as 'dev-sources'? The 2.6 kernel is NO LONGER a DEVELOPMENT kernel. Face it there are now TWO (THREE if you still use 2.2 and FOUR if you still use 2.0!) STABLE kernel series. Sometime soon Linus will open the 2.7 DEVELOPMENT series and then you will HAVE to change the kernel ebuild groups around.

rmalolepszy · Apprentice Joined: 01 Jan 2004 Posts: 167

I imagine at that point there will be a forced change; or when the general consensus states that 2.6 is a stable kernel (by not just the gentoo community).
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Professor Frink · Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:24 pm Post subject:

or when every package in portage works with the 2.6 series.
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Epyon · l33t Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 754 Location: NJ, USA

Are there still packages that don't work with 2.6?

yngwin · Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:27 pm Post subject:

actually, 2.6 is still in development. as long as 2.7 is not started, that is still a correct designation. even so, 2.6 is stable for everyday use and I see no reason to avoid it.

pilla · Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:03 pm Post subject:

gnucash, for example, does not compile with 2.6 headers.
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placeholder · Advocate Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2500

Well they need to get rolling with gnucash then, do they not? I say the 2.6 kernel is stable, yet it is still being actively developed. Therefor it is a development kernel. Either way, I prefer emerge love-sources anyway. :wink:

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pilla · Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:34 pm Post subject:

What's the problem with the current model? You can use whatever you want as kernel, but developers just feel like 2.6 is not ready yet for mainstream. You must respect their decisions, as they're responsible for them.
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yngwin · Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:44 pm Post subject:

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pilla · Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 12:28 pm Post subject:

Banjer · n00b Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 31

I think two aspects are mixed up here... the stable or unstable status is definded in an ebuilds keywords (arch for stable and ~arch for unstable)
Gentoo-dev-sources and development-sources (the 2.6 kernels) aren't masked ~arch, so they are considerd stable.
As for the development name, as far a I know development for 2.6 is ongoing, things are added to the kernel, as opposed to the 2.4 kernel, wich is only maintained with security-pathes, bug-fixes, driver updates and sometimes with features originaly developed for the 2.6-kernel.

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pilla · Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:24 pm Post subject:

Anybody can join forces with developers by posting bugs and patches.
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codergeek42 · Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject:

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Slyde · Guru Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 314

i see no need to rename 2.6.* from dev-sources until there is a 2.8 :wink:

Professor Frink · Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 10:53 pm Post subject:

Who cares what they call it? The only thing thats bad is when i tell my friends to try gentoo and they read the manual and decide to go with gentoo-sources they usually complaing "you said gentoo was all up to date so why is the kernel 2.4.x?" but for people who know how to use gentoo, the name shouldn't matter.
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