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grishnav n00b
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Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Sesshomaru wrote: | What version of pcmcia_cs are you using? I have an orinoco card that wouldnt work in version 3.2.3, it just froze on cardmgr -f, so if this is the case try switching back to 3.2.1-r3 ( I think that is what they are on. ) It worked for me!
hope this helps. |
I'm currently using 3.2.1-r3. I was tempted to try 3.2.3 instead of the current to see if it would remedy it... your news is somewhat discourging. |
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Sargonas Apprentice
Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 213 Location: user@localhost
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:06 am Post subject: |
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Did you build pcmcia support into the kernel (module or into the kernel) because that was one of my first mistakes. you have to build the wireless card drivers but just not the pcmcia into the kernel. Then let pcmcia_cs start up the card and modprobe everything. _________________ I do not consider it an insult, but rather a compliment to be called an agnostic. I do not pretend to know where many ignorant men are sure -- that is all Agnosticism means. - Clarence Darrow |
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grishnav n00b
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Sesshomaru wrote: | Did you build pcmcia support into the kernel (module or into the kernel) because that was one of my first mistakes. you have to build the wireless card drivers but just not the pcmcia into the kernel. Then let pcmcia_cs start up the card and modprobe everything. |
I don't believe I built PCMCIA support into the Kernel. I read some documentation that said not to, and went accordingly. I may have added it along the way trying to figure this out, though. I'll double check. I did build wireless support into the kernel, but none of the drivers, as per the docs I read (they said that pcmcia-cs included drivers that should be used instead). I've been tempted to try building the drivers included with the kernel, as well as trying Avaya OEM drivers. I haven't had a great deal of time to set down and screw with it, though. Just been stuck in the Winblows partition for the time. :/
It should also be noted that if I kill cardmgr, insert the card, and modprobe everything in myself (pcmcia_core, the i8something365, and the 8390 modules) that it doesn't crash, but I still can't seem to use the card (it doesn't appear to come to life... I haven't tried using iwconfig on it because...well... I just read about iwconfig, and only installed it a bit ago ). I don't know if that will help anyone help me diagnose this or not, but never know. |
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Sargonas Apprentice
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Im sorry my previous post was wrong, I went into my config and I didnt build pcmcia or wireless drivers in I built hermes and prism support in .... not the drivers. Im sorry I remember having to build something in to get it working. Sorry about that!!! _________________ I do not consider it an insult, but rather a compliment to be called an agnostic. I do not pretend to know where many ignorant men are sure -- that is all Agnosticism means. - Clarence Darrow |
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grishnav n00b
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Sesshomaru wrote: | Im sorry my previous post was wrong, I went into my config and I didnt build pcmcia or wireless drivers in I built hermes and prism support in .... not the drivers. Im sorry I remember having to build something in to get it working. Sorry about that!!! |
It's Ok. I'll try building prism support in and see if that helps. Thanks for responding! |
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Sargonas Apprentice
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 12:58 am Post subject: |
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No problem anything I can do to help. Keep us update on whether it works out! _________________ I do not consider it an insult, but rather a compliment to be called an agnostic. I do not pretend to know where many ignorant men are sure -- that is all Agnosticism means. - Clarence Darrow |
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grishnav n00b
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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 5:47 am Post subject: |
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No such luck.
Any more suggestions? |
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grishnav n00b
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 12:49 am Post subject: |
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bump for great justice!!! |
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Sargonas Apprentice
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 1:21 am Post subject: |
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does your card use prism or hermes? Mine use the hermes modules and not the prism. _________________ I do not consider it an insult, but rather a compliment to be called an agnostic. I do not pretend to know where many ignorant men are sure -- that is all Agnosticism means. - Clarence Darrow |
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grishnav n00b
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Sesshomaru wrote: | does your card use prism or hermes? Mine use the hermes modules and not the prism. |
Not sure... how do I find out? |
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Sargonas Apprentice
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 3:43 am Post subject: |
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when making the *config I did the help on each and it said what types of card was used by each. _________________ I do not consider it an insult, but rather a compliment to be called an agnostic. I do not pretend to know where many ignorant men are sure -- that is all Agnosticism means. - Clarence Darrow |
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grishnav n00b
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 5:44 am Post subject: |
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w00t
/me got it working!
Will post details later... too sleep now... had something to do with incorrect module for pcmcia controller... or something... yeah, post tomorrow... |
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Sargonas Apprentice
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome! I hope something I said was of help!! Glad you got it working though _________________ I do not consider it an insult, but rather a compliment to be called an agnostic. I do not pretend to know where many ignorant men are sure -- that is all Agnosticism means. - Clarence Darrow |
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grishnav n00b
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Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2003 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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ack... sorry for not posting a reply as promised... I refused to boot back into my windows partition, and I wanted to get a GUI going to use the site with (I'm not a huge fan of text-based browsing ). I'm happy to report I'm posting this using my wireless card, X, fluxbox, and Phoenix! Yay for open source!
Anyway. What I ended up doing:
unmerge pcmcia-cs
compile all kernel pcmcia drivers, and wireless drivers (all available documentation states to use the pcmcia-cs package's drivers, which didn't work for me)
emerge pcmcia-cs
and all was good
I'm still having some weird problems with the way the scripts are working (when cardmgr runs network stop, it runs /etc/init.d/net.eth1 stop, which works fine when I executed, and even succeeds in shuttdown the services when cardmgr runs it, but when run through cardmgr, doesn't successfully show itself as stopped, so that when the card is inserted again, it won't restart), and I can't get ACPI working right, but that's all saved for a thread on the laptop boards.
My best guess is that the pcmcia-cs i82365 drivers might not have worked entirely correctly with my hardware, inspite of the fact that other cards worked Ok. But ultimately, I don't really know. The kernel drivers just happen to work, and the pcmcia-cs ones don't. Time to update some of the guides?
Anyway... thanks everyone for their help, both here and over on the various #gentoo-something IRC channels. |
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Reformist Guru
Joined: 06 Oct 2002 Posts: 323
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Well.. I have no onboard lan on my laptop, and have a Netgear FA311. I have the same problems as posted above, same lockup with cardmanager -f.
Very discouraging - I'm using 1.4.rc2 _________________ -Phil Crosby |
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grishnav n00b
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 3:34 am Post subject: |
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Reformist wrote: | Well.. I have no onboard lan on my laptop, and have a Netgear FA311. I have the same problems as posted above, same lockup with cardmanager -f.
Very discouraging - I'm using 1.4.rc2 |
heheheh... I had trouble with my Orinoco wireless... my netgear FA511 worked flawlessly.
Anyway, since I've managed to get mine working, let see if we can't do something about yours... Can you post some more info? |
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Robelix l33t
Joined: 21 Jul 2002 Posts: 760 Location: in a World created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2003 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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I also had similar problems with my laptop and thought for some time that it was pcmcia - but it was apm. With the "use cpu idle calls" option turned off I had no more system freezes. _________________ mysql> SELECT question FROM life, universe, everything WHERE answer=42;
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Reformist Guru
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 6:50 am Post subject: |
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"Use CPU Item calls"? Is that a bios setting? if it is a kernel setting, I can make no use of it, because I cannot even get past the first 10 lines of the install guide.
Unfortunately my bios sucks and has absolutely no options to set except for the boot order - that's HP for you.
I'm running an HP xf328 pavillion, which is an athlon XP 1800... I currently have windows XP running on it, with a netgear MA401 wireless PC card, 11Mbps, 16 bit. I can skip running cardmgr -f and just "modprobe orinoco" to get the module loaded for inet access, but net-setup eth0 or dhcpcd yield no results. I have no error message when trying to set up my network, I just never get assigned an ip address as repoted by ifconfig -a, and of course cannot ping anything.
My network consists of a linksys BEFSR41 router and a WAP11 wireless access point, which work and connect to comcast. My router gives out IP's by dhcp.
I thought I read somewhere that loading the orinoco module will do nothing for me unless cardmgr is running - is that true? If it is true, then that is the first problem (which seems unsolveable) that I need to take care of. If I can get my network card supported without loading cardmgr, then I should be able to circumvent it since it keeps crashing and just try and get internet access, and install pcmcia-cs.
Oi! _________________ -Phil Crosby |
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Robelix l33t
Joined: 21 Jul 2002 Posts: 760 Location: in a World created by a Flying Spaghetti Monster
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, if I was not clear - I was in a hurry writing it, but today I've got enough time.
1) It's a kernel option - In "General Setup" in the section "Advanced Power Management BIOS Support". Its exact name is "Make CPU Idle calls when idle". Turning it on caused my system to freeze completely, this happened very often but not always while loading the pcmcia modules. It seems to be diabled in the boot-cd-kernel (at least the 1.2-stage1 I used) since I never had these troubles when booting the cd.
2) The cardmgr is a tool that looks what's happening in the pcmcia slots and loads or unloads the modules for inserted or ejected cards. If you load all modules by hand it will work without cardmgr as long as you don't eject the card. _________________ mysql> SELECT question FROM life, universe, everything WHERE answer=42;
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