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lee4th
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 Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:55 pm Post subject: NTFS Question |
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I'm a new linux user (actually using Fedora 2) and I'm just starting out in the Linux enviroment. However I messed up WinXP somehow. A friend has advised to use the WinXP cd and go into recovery console and run fixboot and fixmbr. I'm going to try this but wondering if anyone knows how to backup some of the important files on the linux side of it (manupulation of NTFS files from Linux enviroment). Any advice anyone could give would be greatly appreciated. The other thing I know is my kernel isn't setup to handle NTFS. If anyone could tell me how to add support (in dummy terms please) for NTFS, it would be appreciated.
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Marctraider
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I still dont actually understand what you're trying to do, but NTFS kernel support is limited, reading NTFS drives is ok but writing and changing gets limited :(
FAT32 on the other hand works perfect :)
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lee4th
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| Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Would there be a way to convert the drive from NTFS to FAT32 in the linux enviroment? Probably another question I should have originally asked.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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lee4th,
NTFS support in linux is limited. Its OK for backups though because reading works.
You need to build the NTFS kernel module if you don't have it already. Test with the following:-
| Code: | | grep NTFS /usr/src/linux/.config |
I get | Quote: | CONFIG_NTFS_FS=m
# CONFIG_NTFS_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_NTFS_RW is not set |
which shows I have the module.
As root doing | Code: | | mount /dev/<NTFS_Partition> /mnt/floppy -t ntfs |
mounts it on the /mnt/floppy mout point for reading.
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lee4th
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| Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Running the first command grep NTFS /usr/src/linux/.config, I get grep: /usr/src/linux/.config: No such file or directory
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Fiouz
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| Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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If you're running 2.6 kernel (don't know Fedora), you can try
| Code: | | zcat /proc/config.gz | grep NTFS |
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NeddySeagoon
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lee4th,
Sorry, it didn't register that you are running a binary distro.
Try the second command anyway, if the mount works, and you can browse /mnt/floppy then NTFS is available to you.
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lee4th
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| Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| It says that NTFS is not supported by kernel. Any thoughts? Thanks. |
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NeddySeagoon
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| Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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lee4th,
Its roll your own kernel time.
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lee4th
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| Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2004 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow, that sounds scary. Any advice or help you could give. I've never done it before. Thanks again. |
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lee4th,
I've not used RH since RH8. I downloaded all 6 CDs of RH9 and installed Gentoo instead.
You need to install the kernel sources of your choice, You probably have an RMP of that or get a kernel source tree from somewhere.
Don't mess with the content od /usr/src/linux thats shpposed to be a stable set of kernel headers.
Get a 2.6 kerenl from kernel.org or a mirror and put it in /home/<ordinary_user>. Untar it there, cd to the new directory and read the README.
It fairly safe, even if it doesn't work, since you are going to have two kernels installed, like a dual boot system.
After you have read the readme, do ,
choose all the bits you want (including the NTFS filesystem). It will take a few hours to do the config the first time but you will get it down to 10 min.
Post back when you have got as far as running the | Code: | make
make modules_install |
and I'll tell you how to try to boot it.
Some rules of thumb for configuring a kernel.
1. Say 'Y' to anything required for booting
2. Say 'N' to anything you know you don't want
3. Say 'M' to anything you may want or will want after boot.
4. If you don't understand the help on an item dont mess with it. The defaults are 'mostly harmless'.
[hard sell]By the way, the kernel build is the hardest bit of a Gentoo install.[/hard sell]
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