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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 11:39 pm    Post subject: UTP: solid core copper? or stranded core copper? Reply with quote

Hi,

My local store has two kind:
    solid core cooper
    stranded core copper


Now which one is 'better'...

I know, that solid core cables are less flexible.

Thanks,
Pascal de Bruijn

PS: Please indicate whether you're guessing, or you know which one is better.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would assume stranded would be better, but i'd also bet that the solid core would work perfectly fine. there are hardware implementations against errors, and i see most people run wires near florescent lights and other electronic equipment.

what length of run are we talking about? IIRC the limit is about 1 football feild for cat5, probably shorter for 100MBps.

i would assume that stranded core would be better simply because it has more surface area and surface area has an impact upon impedance at high frequencies. but solid has worked for me just fine, if there is any price difference i mean. i'd probably hate to work with crimping ends on a stranded core.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, maximum length is exactly 100meters...

And crimping doesn't make a difference... Because the inner wires don't need to be stripped.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solid core Cat5 is used for cabling in behind a wall, while stranded core Cat5 is used for patch leads. And the recommended length for Cat5 is 90m for wall to wall (solid) and 10m of patch lead (stranded)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, but does solid core have less effect from EMI?

with 'better' I mean more reliable...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For EMI worry about the shielding.

More reliable in what usage?

If it's just going from a computer to a hub/switch you want stranded. It is resistant to breakage from repeated bending and repositioning. Anything that is going to get connected and disconnected often should have stranded core. In short runs the durability far outweighs the higher resistance (signal loss).

If it's a long run that will not get moved (permanent installation) then solid core is more durable over time and has less signal loss. If I'm going to wire between buildings or across floor levels this is what I would use. This is also what I would specify for any new construction.

A short run is under 10 meters (32.8 feet).
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should also be noted that you use a different jack end on solid vs stranded. Make sure you get/have the right ends to crimp onto whatever wire you buy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm. okay, I didn't know that.

Can you tell me what's the difference with the crimping ends?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to really look for that one. It seems most ends now support both stranded and solid. Here and here are little blurbs on plug types (both about mid-page). In short, just make sure the bag of plugs say they support whatever wire you buy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2004 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that stranded is slightly better but I am not sure that you will notice a difference as the hw autocorrects errors and error rates are very low.
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