[BAREBONE] Que me conseillez vous ?

Trevoke · Advocate Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 4099 Location: NY, NY

If you are trying to install from the LiveCD, try using "smp" to boot as opposed to "gentoo".

the 2.6 kernel (called smp in the boot menu) works better with auto-configuration.
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jonaswidarsson · Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:44 pm Post subject:

sireyessire · Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:46 pm Post subject:

jonaswidarsson · Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:53 pm Post subject:

Trevoke · Advocate Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 4099 Location: NY, NY

http://www.linuxcompatible.org/thread1296-1.html
http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Sep/2886.html
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jonaswidarsson · Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:22 pm Post subject:

If you meant "disabling apic at boot", I tried it, no difference.
Please confirm or deny that "dmesg | grep eth" would list the card if it was inserted into kernel, fully operating. Otherwise, I do not know how to test for success.

sireyessire · Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:29 pm Post subject:

Trevoke · Advocate Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 4099 Location: NY, NY

It ought to.
You can test for success using "ping -c 3 www.google.com" or "net-setup eth0" or "lsmod" and looking for loaded modules..

Those links spoke about an odd 3com / Nvidia network card, it's confusing me.
Also, the Asus website doesn't link a Terminator T-2 ... What is it exactly? P4? AMD ? Socket?
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jonaswidarsson · Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:46 pm Post subject:

jonaswidarsson · Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:50 pm Post subject:

On various sites/mailing lists, I read that this NIC (3C920) should be 3c905c compatible, and which would be supported by the 3c59x module, which is actually loaded according to lsmod. However, it also says it is not used.

The IRQ of the card is 3. Can I sort of force the correct configuration onto the kernel so it would catch the NIC?

jonaswidarsson · Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject:

Oh, how a boring way this is to learn...

Trevoke · Advocate Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 4099 Location: NY, NY

Well, worse comes to worst, I suggest you go download the two boot floppies on ftp.netbsd.org ... NetBSD has support for pretty much any and everything, except my toaster.

If you want your machine to be a firewall/web server, *BSD is better, usually, although it is as usual a matter of choice.

No doubt, however, that NetBSD would help you find out what it is.
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jonaswidarsson · Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject:

Trevoke · Advocate Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 4099 Location: NY, NY

I believe NetBSD uses csh by default, however (pkg_add ?) bash exists.
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jonaswidarsson · Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 9:38 pm Post subject:

Impatient as I am, and not bothering too much about the bandwidth, I tried a FreeBSD 4.10 (STABLE) release just for kicks, since the netbsd link you provided didn't work ATM.

Funny nor freebsd managed to detect that NIC...

I will return to linux hunting for yet another while.

You know, using gentoo is half the purpose having this "server". Actually, it is just a toy.
EDIT: I saw netbsd is up again. I'll give it a try.

jonaswidarsson · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:08 am Post subject:

After some sleep I re-read parts of this thread and found that:
ifconfig -a
returns an interface called "tap0"
what's that?

I google for it and everyone is talking about dialup, but I am almost completely sure that this box does not hav a modem.
(there's no modem jack, and it says "no modem" in any documentation)

jonaswidarsson · Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:18 am Post subject:

while netbsd iso was downloading, I went back to the gentoo livecd to try to get the 8129too module based NIC working. Thought I might at least start installing gentoo on the box. You know... just to try...

Well well, it doesn't want to reach the network.
If the NIC is UP on a dhcp leased config, and the gateway is as correct as it is on this laptop, and I try to ping the gateway (which is no problem at all from the laptop) and this fails - "Network is unreachable"... What could be wrong?

I don't understand. The chipset 8129 is not uncommon, so it should work. It is ok to ssh between the laptop and the "server" (that is: across a switch in the local network), did that several times. It is not the cables, because the cable used on this laptop does not change anything if pluged into the server.

Hmmm...
This problem is greater than just an undetectable NIC.

Trevoke · Advocate Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 4099 Location: NY, NY

can you ping, say, www.google.com ?

Otherwise, try re-running "dhcpcd eth0" (or whatever the NIC is).

or .. ifconfig eth0 IP_ADDRESS broadcast $BROADCAST netmask $NETMASK up
route add default gw $GATEWAY

.. try that.
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jonaswidarsson · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 12:58 pm Post subject:

Nah, I'd ping the servers I run because thery're closer...
My laptop can ping my gateway, the company webserver etc.

Even when all "ifconfig" and "route -n" displays exactly the same values, it works on the laptop but not on the server.

I am starting to believe there is hardware configuration needed to be done here. I read somewhere yesterday about someone downloading a DOS utility to change something important in a 3Com card.

But I have greater problems than just finding the card. I mean the PCI-slot NIC obviously works, but won't allow me to access the Internet.

I'll keep looking.

Thank you for helping me.

jonaswidarsson · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:04 pm Post subject:

It is interesting that the PCI slot NIC can actually lease an address from the dhcp server at my ISP, and everything is set up correctly AFAICT, but it still cannot access the gateway.

I had the thought recently that maybe the ISP BLOCKS this additional computer for some reason? (ie, to prevent clusters on a single ADSL connection or something) ... Blocks by keeping track of MAC adresses or something. I don't know.

Trevoke · Advocate Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 4099 Location: NY, NY

Is the gateway yours?
All those computers in the house.. Do you have a hardware box, or a computer that works as a gateway?
May want to check settings and make sure it's open to accepting more connections than what you have already.
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jonaswidarsson · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:42 pm Post subject:

The "gateway" is the one provided by my ISP.
I managed to ping the gateway and other adresses in a sudden.
I am trying to work out why, and of course it doesn't work anymore...

I'll be back with details (maybe).

/Jonas

anigel · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:55 pm Post subject:

Hello !

Sorry to come and disturb the thread, but an good idea to improve lisibility of this topic would be to open a new thread, in a english part of the forum, and link it here ?

Thanks in advance

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jonaswidarsson · Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:14 pm Post subject:

Yes, it actually crossed my mind many times.
I usually don't hi'jack threads, and this isn't really a good place to talk about this problem either.

I searched the forums for matches about asus terminator t2 and this thread was the best match. Since I don't understand the language I could only guess anyone had experiences with this hardware.

But on the other hand, I've been quite over-correct in other discussions, creating new threads upon any different aspect of a collection of problems, resulting in lots of links between pages. That's a bad thing to do as well.

But I get your point very well, french forum, french topic and all...
I'll start over elsewhere on next message. and post a link here.

/Jonas

jonaswidarsson · Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:07 am Post subject:

Here it is:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1737790#1737790