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Marwin n00b
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: Lost my net, lost my mind |
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klieber wrote: | SaintNickNorth wrote: | Ifconfig shows UP and RUNNING, I think Route is correct. |
- Can you ping localhost
- Can you ping your own IP address?
- Can you ping your default gateway IP address?
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I can do nr 1,2 but not ping my gateway(192.168.0.1) |
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Is the cable plugged in? Does switching cables help? _________________ For every higher wall, there is a taller ladder |
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Lost my net, lost my mind |
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Marwin wrote: | I can do nr 1,2 but not ping my gateway(192.168.0.1) |
OK, two thoughts. One, you have a messed up netmask and/or routing table. Two, some routers (Cisco being one of them) have problems when '0' is used as one of the octets in your IP address. (I remember hearing that that violated some RFC, but don't quote me on that -- it's been a while)
If you can, try re-jiggering your network to get rid of the "0" in the third octet.
However, chances are the routing table and/or netmask are the problem. (again, compare the output of ifconfig and route -n when booted to the CD vs. the HDD to see what the diff is)
Also, as rac suggested, check the cables -- make sure they're not loose, you're not accidentally using a crossover cable, etc.
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Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2002 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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It's also a good idea to try a different hub or at least different ports on the hub. I was having a helluva time debugging a network problem at home - then I tried just moving the network cables to different ports on the hub. Turns out that my prehistoric (but free!) 24-port 100-BaseT-only hub was finally dying one port at a time. 'Twas rather embarrasing since it took me hours to figure out. _________________ "An empty head is not really empty; it is stuffed with rubbish. Hence the difficulty of forcing anything into an empty head."
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2002 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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I've struck this problem too.
I used tomsrtbt to set up a Gentoo server and even after the first boot ifconfig says all's ok but I can't ping anything outside it ie the other machine at the end of the cable.
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 6:05 am Post subject: |
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Well I've spend all afternoon going over this and the only difference i can see between booting with tomsrtbt is that the 3com card is on irq10 and io 0x300 and when i boot with gentoo it's on irq5 and 0x220.
Using gkrellm on this box I can see the pings from both machines but neither respond to them.
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timbo wrote: | Well I've spend all afternoon going over this and the only difference i can see between booting with tomsrtbt is that the 3com card is on irq10 and io 0x300 and when i boot with gentoo it's on irq5 and 0x220. |
Perhaps Stuck on 10BT (especially Bloody Bastard's postings) will help you. Other things to try include compiling the driver as a module and trying to pass arguments to it on the command line, and shifting slots with it. _________________ For every higher wall, there is a taller ladder |
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 8:48 am Post subject: |
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I've recompiled the kernel BUT........
I can load and unload the module and with say;
insmod 3c506 irq=10
ifconfig eth0 192.18.0.3 up
And it does the same thing ping send packets but nothing returns from either machine, if I reboot with tomsrtbt alls well after reassigning the ip number and setting the gw.
Any more sugestions....
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Tim
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Can't you set also the io ?
Have you tried rac's suggestion? Maybe it is just the case of some misconfiguration in your network adapter.
Another possibility is to play with BIOS (sometimes it helps, sometimes it does not)
timbo wrote: | I've recompiled the kernel BUT........
I can load and unload the module and with say;
insmod 3c506 irq=10
ifconfig eth0 192.18.0.3 up
And it does the same thing ping send packets but nothing returns from either machine, if I reboot with tomsrtbt alls well after reassigning the ip number and setting the gw.
Any more sugestions....
Regards
Tim
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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Bloody Bastard
Reading some of the networking howtos etc they'v said that if your "unlucky" enought to have an isa nic you'll be in a world of pain....... man do i believe them.
the 3c509 driver will not allow you to change the io even though they give you a line that you can pass to the kernel with lilo.
Really odd thing is that the car works with tomsrtbt and the only difference is the io and the driver, which is my next port of call. I've recompiled my kernel with modules instead of it in the kernel.
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Tim
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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But have you tried the utilities that 3com distributes? They are quite handy...
timbo wrote: | Bloody Bastard
Reading some of the networking howtos etc they'v said that if your "unlucky" enought to have an isa nic you'll be in a world of pain....... man do i believe them.
the 3c509 driver will not allow you to change the io even though they give you a line that you can pass to the kernel with lilo.
Really odd thing is that the car works with tomsrtbt and the only difference is the io and the driver, which is my next port of call. I've recompiled my kernel with modules instead of it in the kernel.
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Tim
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Bloody Bastard
Doing that as we speak... really looks like it's the io port.......
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Tim
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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If you cannot make it work with those tools, you can also try changing values in your BIOS for that ISA. Sometimes weird things happens when PnP is being used. Maybe some reservation of that address for your NIC could help.
Good luck.
timbo wrote: | Bloody Bastard
Doing that as we speak... really looks like it's the io port.......
Regards
Tim
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 2:41 am Post subject: |
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Well well well....... three holes in the ground........
I was just about ready to give up, when. I had tried the 3com utils and set the card to irq10 and io220 that I knew Gentoo was using when the card was in PnP mode but it still would not ping.
So I pulled out the modem and sound cards which I have not got to configure services for yet and low and behold away we go as simple as that.
Thanks everyone for your help much appreciated.......
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Tim
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