install-x86-minimal-2004.2 doesn't work...

To · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:51 am Post subject:

Well just another with probs. Hardware, Abit NF7-S v. 2, award BIOS i think.

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einheitlix · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:09 pm Post subject:

I would say they're right. Some BIOSes don't work as they should. I wouldn't qualify them as "buggy", but rather as "not standard-compliant". How was the dev team supposed to know? ;-)

Actually, that problem has been resolved for a few weeks. The thing is that the link to the experimental fixed LiveCD was only to be seen in the corresponding bug report, so only a few people noticed it and gave feedback about it. Thus, the fixed ISO remained untested and hence they did not replace the current LiveCD (they still didn't, but they surely will soon, as soon as they've got enough feedback).

I posted my thoughts about this in the bug tracker (comment #35) a few days ago. The responsible dev was quite pissed off that someone dare criticize the situation (comment #36), but he then propagated the fixed ISO among the mirrors and posted something about it in the news (or let something be posted) however, so, it's only a matter of time until the official 2004.2 minimal LiveCD release is fixed in the mirrors

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einheitlix · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:27 pm Post subject:

I guess that's a question of point of view.

You're right, your BIOS would boot every cd but the 2004.2 minimal LiveCD.

But from the point of view of the devs, their LiveCD would work on every machine except on some that are using Phoenix/Award BIOS, so for them, it looks like it's these BIOSes that are buggy.

Actually, the problem was that some BIOSes don't like the special set of Rock Ridge extensions with which the ISO was built. So, the most objective statement would neither be that it's a bug with the cd, nor that it's a bug in some BIOSes, but that it's an incompatibility between this special ISO and some special BIOSes.

Now, I don't know whether BIOSes SHOULD be able to handle these Rock Ridge extensions (nor do I know who defines what BIOSes should be able to do and what not, but I guess there's a kind of standard). If they should support it, I'd rather say it's actually a BIOS problem. If there's no such guideline, I would rather tend to say it's a problem with the cd

Whatever. The most important is that it does work now

frozenJim · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:18 pm Post subject:

On all of my OTHER bootable Linux Cd's, the root dir looks something like this:

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budgee · n00b Joined: 19 Aug 2003 Posts: 17

Hi All

The development CD boots... Great. I got as far as doing a bootstrap, noticing that the kernel was now 2.6.7-blabla in the process.

It didn't click with me that this would be a problem (the 2004.2 cd had 2.4 kernel) until the bootstrap tried to merge glibc. Glibc requires the headers for the current kernel (2.6), but the original stage1 tarball (I didn't see one for the new CD) only includes 2.4.21 headers...

So, I tried the following:

# emerge unmerge linux-headers
# emerge inject sys-devel/patch-2.5.9
(Because the linux26-headers wants patch-2.5.9, but patch won't compile without a sane gcc tool chain)
# emerge linux26-headers
Edit the /usr/portage/scripts/bootstrap.sh file and # out all the previous emerge commands, so that the emerge picks up at Glibc again.

It is now emerging glibc - will see how it goes. Don't se why it shouldn't work...

Is there an updated stage1 tarball for the new CD? Or must the smp kernel on the new CD be downgraded to 2.4?

hw-tph · Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:39 am Post subject:

Ermmm, any solution to this yet? Other than using 2004.1 I mean.
I just got back my desktop and I want to blow it clean and install fresh (others have had their dirty little fingers on it).

Håk

CatBread · n00b Joined: 05 Oct 2004 Posts: 1

attempted to boot-install with x86 universal 2004.2 without success..going to try universal 2004.1

trying to install on a fujitsu lifebook 535tx

KikyoMerc · n00b Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 61

Can you do a 2004.2 install off of the 2004.0 or 2004.1 disc. I tried the universal x86 on my computer. The specs are Gigabyte GA-7NNXP with Athlon XP 3200+. Award bios version 15 (i think).

w0rm · n00b Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 67

Budgee:
well just
emerge -C linux-headers
then:
$ mkdir /etc/portage && echo sys-kernel/linux26-headers ~x86 >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
after that emerge linux26-headers only (no dependences):
$ emerge --nodeps --oneshot linux26-headers

then bootstrap the system.

drh3xx · n00b Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 1

I'm using the 'minimal 2004.2 iso' and it does boot from the cd.
My problem is after I select the kernel to load (I've tried gentoo and both smp kernels). It detects my cdrom/hdd's etc... but when it's 'scanning for ehci-hcd...' it just hangs.

Any ideas? I really want to get this working. Should I be using the smp kernel for my hyperthreaded P4? I read somewhere that the initialisation of HT and SMP is basically the same so I've just kind of assumed I should.

VampyreUK · n00b Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 51 Location: UK

... could they put it up somehwree on an accesible server as I would really like to use the minimal ISO rather than universal :-)

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stormer · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:49 am Post subject: Mounting livecd.squashfs

Have you tryed mounting the squashfs on that cd.

mount -o loop -t squashfs livecd.squashfs /mnt/loop

That goes well, but using cp result in a squashfs kernel module crash.

frilled · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:03 pm Post subject:

Well, I tried it on 6(!) machines, none of them booted off the CD.
I re-downloaded the image twice to no avail.
Downloaded the "full" image and: voila...
Not really *that* nice

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To · Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:50 am Post subject:

I sure that this will be fixed next release.

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venquessa2 · Apprentice Joined: 27 Oct 2004 Posts: 283

I burned the x86_minimal_2004.2 CD on the 24th Oct using cdrecord and it worked first time on two seperate machines. FreeCom CDRW, ASUS board, AthlonXP, running LFS-5.0+BLFS-5.0

laurent-d · n00b Joined: 27 Oct 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Maubeuge, fr

One can fin the install-x86-minimal-2004.3-test1.iso now in "experimental" but "dokeymap" was not found at startup. For english speaking people it boots very well with award bios.
But release/livecd .. still brings you a 2004.2.iso. And I would like to fix the fr keyboard before going any further (would not leave bsd to find less comfort ;-)

To · Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:30 am Post subject:

The problem I had was using a LG 52x52x40x and a Plex16x8x48

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laurent-d · n00b Joined: 27 Oct 2004 Posts: 10 Location: Maubeuge, fr

trouble's not coming from cd burning but bios ability to boot on cd ..
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onthehop · n00b Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 1

I had the same problem, but after reading the file for download that says : READ ME it tells us that these CD'S ARE NOT BOOTABLE!

infinitezero · n00b Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 68

I cound not boot the 2004.2 min x86, but after I updated my motherboards BIOS it boot with no problems. I dont know if that is relative, but interesting none the less.

infinitezero · n00b Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 68

Sometimes my grasp of the English language alludes me.

woZa · Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:36 pm Post subject:

Athlon-XP, nforce2, nec-3500a unable to boot minimal 2004.2 iso. Downloading experimental iso to see if that works... ill get back and let you know.
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