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norman_timo n00b
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 3
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:27 pm Post subject: Installing gentoo on Pentium 90Mhz Laptop? |
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Hello everybody!
I´m looking for a possibility to install a Linux-system on my Toshiba Laptop 90Mhz and 48 Mb Ram.
Currently it´s running with Win98 and Office 2000, and it´s working nice.
But I am looking for an Linux system which can start a graphical desktop and having open office installed.
Other distributions don´t work with such an old system and above all it is not posible to install from CD´s because my laptop don´t have a CD-Rom (yes there are Pc´s without a CD-Rom! ).
Maybe a solution could be gentoo, but before I start installing it (I calculate with a duration of one week) I want to know if it´s generally possible to install gentoo on my system. (network is available over pcmcia (at least this is present on my system ).
I could not believe that there´s no possibility under Linux to start a graphical desktop on such a weak system. Windows also works, then Linux must work too (I believe).
Is someone knowing something about my problem, or is there someone who installed gentoo on a similar system? Please answer me...
Sincerely
Norman-Timo |
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adaptr Watchman
Joined: 06 Oct 2002 Posts: 6730 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: Installing gentoo on Pentium 90Mhz Laptop? |
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norman_timo wrote: | Other distributions don´t work with such an old system |
Patent nonsense, of course.
norman_timo wrote: | and above all it is not posible to install from CD´s because my laptop don´t have a CD-Rom (yes there are Pc´s without a CD-Rom! ). |
Get Debian - you can install from a couple of floppies over the Internet, and it'll run fine on your laptop.
If you use xfce4 or fluxbox (windowmaker, anyone?) then 48 MB is plenty for a graphical environment.
norman_timo wrote: | Maybe a solution could be gentoo, but before I start installing it (I calculate with a duration of one week) I want to know if it´s generally possible to install gentoo on my system. |
Possible - probably, feasible - no.
You will definitely need 64+ MB for both the install and to run any X shell of note.
norman_timo wrote: | (network is available over pcmcia (at least this is present on my system ). |
The Debian bootfloppies have full PCMCIA support. _________________ >>> emerge (3 of 7) mcse/70-293 to /
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Archangel1 Veteran
Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Posts: 1212 Location: Work
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Well fair call adaptr, but this is the Gentoo forum - shouldn't we be encouraging him to use that?
A P90 might be a bit keen though, I've tried on a P200 and it kept breaking after a day's compiling - might try again with a stage3 sometime. Was probably optimising something too aggressively anyway
There are instructions floating around on how to use some floppy-based distro to kick off a Gentoo install or some such.
I would guess some lightweight WM (Fluxbox say) would be fine. The X server could be a bit lethal though - you might have to look into KDrive or XDirectFB.
OpenOffice might well be too much for the old beast. It's not all that spritely really - but I can't think of an alternative. No harm in trying though. |
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adaptr Watchman
Joined: 06 Oct 2002 Posts: 6730 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I´m looking for a possibility to install a Linux-system on my Toshiba Laptop 90Mhz and 48 Mb Ram. |
Quote: | But I am looking for an Linux system which can start a graphical desktop and having open office installed |
Emphases mine.
And no, OpenOffice.org will probably not work...
He did not inquire as to the feasibility to install Gentoo on it - he wanted to know if it is possible to install Linux on it.
Which is very possible.
And Debian is a breeze to install on a small system - no stupendous GUI installer, no gigs of RAM needed, and no more than 300MB of diskspace actually required. _________________ >>> emerge (3 of 7) mcse/70-293 to /
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Syntaxis Guru
Joined: 28 Apr 2002 Posts: 511 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:20 am Post subject: |
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adaptr wrote: | no more than 300MB of diskspace actually required. |
Even less, actually. A minimum install of Woody is ~80MB. |
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norman_timo n00b
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 3
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hey thanks a lot!
Equal what I finally install on my old Laptop, I indepandently install Gentoo on my P3 450 Mhz with ~400 MB Ram, and this should work nice
Thanx adptr, with your hints it´s possible to help me with my decision what for a Linux system I should take.
And rigth, for me it´s not relevant which WindowMaker is installed, but it should run in a acceptable speed.
And I try OpenOffice (is there no equal Application which is much more ressource-friendly )
So, thanx all, if I have some more qestions I would ask here in this forum...
Bye
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adaptr Watchman
Joined: 06 Oct 2002 Posts: 6730 Location: Rotterdam, Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Syntaxis wrote: | adaptr wrote: | no more than 300MB of diskspace actually required. |
Even less, actually. A minimum install of Woody is ~80MB. |
Including X ?
Be realistic dude. _________________ >>> emerge (3 of 7) mcse/70-293 to /
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Syntaxis Guru
Joined: 28 Apr 2002 Posts: 511 Location: London, UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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No, X isn't included in the minimum install. I was expanding upon your
adaptr wrote: | Debian is a breeze to install on a small system | statement. |
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aahavelock n00b
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 3 Location: Helter Skelter
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 8:38 am Post subject: |
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I installed gentoo via slack (with a 2.6 kernel) on what seems to be a 486-100 (were these actually made, or is cpuinfo just tripping balls?) with 16MB RAM. I also installed X and fluxbox. Office apps? You might try Siag Office, though I have no experience with it. |
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adaptr Watchman
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Syntaxis wrote: | No, X isn't included in the minimum install. I was expanding upon your
adaptr wrote: | Debian is a breeze to install on a small system | statement. |
Heh right - but nowhere did I mention the presence or absence of X - the OP said he wanted X.
</nitpick> _________________ >>> emerge (3 of 7) mcse/70-293 to /
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Ben2040 Guru
Joined: 07 May 2003 Posts: 445 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Archangel1 wrote: | The X server could be a bit lethal though - you might have to look into KDrive or XDirectFB. |
No such problem here - XFree from Woody works perfectly acceptably on my P100 Dell
Ben |
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carpman Advocate
Joined: 20 Jun 2002 Posts: 2202 Location: London - UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:33 am Post subject: |
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for installing you could always take drive out of system and put it another faster system either running gentoo or booted with knoppix and do install that way, then just pop drive back into p90 and boot it up _________________ Work Station - 64bit
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electrofreak l33t
Joined: 30 Jun 2004 Posts: 713 Location: Ohio, USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 2:52 am Post subject: |
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aahavelock wrote: | I installed gentoo via slack (with a 2.6 kernel) on what seems to be a 486-100 (were these actually made, or is cpuinfo just tripping balls?) |
Yes, I believe that is known as the 486DX4. When I upgraded to it, it was like Woah!
Also, I would recommend debian as well. very easy. Only needs 6 Floppy disks to get going. While I would love to recommend Gentoo for it, I have to say its not for the job, if its a serious job... If I had such an old system (that worked) I would love to try to install gentoo on it just to see if it woulc work. But, for 90 Mhz, I think it would seriously take a few months to set up. If you do choose gentoo, let me know how it goes though... |
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