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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:14 pm    Post subject: Gentoo-Wiki.com going multilingual ? Reply with quote

Well i've been running the wiki now for a few months and it seems that we are beginning to get many users from other countiries, and I think now might be a good idea to add multilingual support. Such as adding http://de.gentoo-wiki.com or http://fr.gentoo-wiki.com or similar. much the same way wikipedia.org does this.

I feel this will be an easy addition with only one hurdle, getting admins for the other languages.

I would like to open up this thread for thoughts about doing this and if anyone would like to "apply" for a postion as an admin on one of these wikis if i were to add them.

For thoe wondering a wiki admins job is pretty damn easy, you edit the main page when you feel it need changing and you monitor changes made by others. Usually this can be done in about 5 min a day, but i would appriciate it if you did a little more then the minimum :).

So thoughts, questions, anything?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved form Documentation, Tips & Tricks.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good idea IMHO. I have posted a news item on our Hungarian portal looking for admins.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gentoo-wiki fully support russian for viewing and editing in utf8 encoding
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!

I would admin the Hungarian part....
What's the next step?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will post back here in a day or 2 with which languages we will be starting with and who will be admins (chosen from this thread), but I do need multiple admins for each wiki so if your interested speak up or emailme: mikevalstar@gentoo-wiki.com


you even get a neat @gentoo-wiki.com email :)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If would do the Dutch part, btw i am the one that placed "Can I add a Dutch part..." on http://gentoo-wiki.com/Talk:Main_Page
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

garo wrote:
If would do the Dutch part, btw i am the one that placed "Can I add a Dutch part..." on http://gentoo-wiki.com/Talk:Main_Page



ok cool, email me and I can have it all setup in a few hours. What you will need to do is translate or create new pages to replace the major pages on the wiki. Should take a couple hours. Beyond that its up to you. I'm sure others will help translate the actual articles.

Email me mikevalstar@gentoo-wiki.com and we can go through creating the dutch wiki. or you can join the mailing list: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Gentoo-Portage_Wiki:Mailing_List
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, the dutch version is now up for everyone to see.

http://nl.gentoo-wiki.com

Enjoy everyone. please help this wiki get off the ground.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:14 pm    Post subject: Idea to think about Reply with quote

Hi everyone,
I think its generally a good idea to put some locale sites, but I also fear that some really good tutorials and howtos are scattered through those sites. What about the purpose of a wiki? Wasn't it to keep all really important infos in one place rather than scatter them around (although in different languages)? :?

Just to mention...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its a cool idea, I'd like to help translating the wiki into spanish.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: Idea to think about Reply with quote

_kev_ wrote:
Hi everyone,
I think its generally a good idea to put some locale sites, but I also fear that some really good tutorials and howtos are scattered through those sites. What about the purpose of a wiki? Wasn't it to keep all really important infos in one place rather than scatter them around (although in different languages)? :?

Just to mention...


Personally I don't like the whole se.gentoo-wiki.com idea. I think there should be the standard wiki, but then translations bound to the howto, instead of the howto to the translation.

Reading that, it didn't make much sense.

Instead of:

Howtoos
-English
--Howto Bip
--Howto Bap
-Spanish
--Howto Bip
-Swedish
--Howto Bap
--Howto Bag

It would be better to set it up:
Howtoos
-Howtoo Bip
--English (Default)
--Spanish
--Swedish (This howtoo has not been translated. Press Edit to translate now.)
-Howtoo Bap
--English (Default)
--Spanish (This howtoo has not been translated. Press Edit to translate now.)
--Swedish
-Howtoo Bag
--English (Default) (This howtoo has not been translated. Press Edit to translate now.)
--Spanish
--Swedish

Anybody get what I mean?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danish gentoo-wiki is up (for those who are danish speaking) [/url]
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:16 pm    Post subject: Need brazilian-portuguese! :) Reply with quote

If you add brazilian portuguese documentation it wold be good!

:)

I'll inform people about this, and translate the docs!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:59 pm    Post subject: Great idea! Reply with quote

I think translating all those wonderful and helpful articles would be a blessing for the international Gentoo community. But as feffi already stated, they should imho reside on a centralized place. How about a "choose your language" option on the main wiki site once the internationalization has reached a reasonable level?

Apart from that, I am a German student of computer sciences who uses solely Gentoo and has taken an intensive course of the English language. I would very much like to contribute by translating some of said excellent articles to German. So if there is enough resonance and this project of internationalization is indeed being undertaken, I'd be honored to contribute. Just email me at gundelgauk@gmx.net and please mention the article that has to be translated. I will do the best I can to stay as near to the original version as possible while making it easy to understand and follow for German Gentoo enthusiasts. =)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about a Traditional Chinese section too? I could be the admin if you lack people that can read / translate English to Chinese (or vice-versa). In fact, there are some trival mistakes in the Traditional Chinese handbook too.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well some translations have been started, the folowing are already up and running:

In Progress:

Abandoned: (ones that started but never went anywhere)

If anyone would like to take over an abandoned wiki feel free, join the mailing list and ask to be made an admin. Also all of the wikis could use more admins, email the mailing list to be concidered.

Just thought i would keep you all upto date
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there!

Well, I went through this topic. I consider it to be a really good idea to have a multilingual support. I'm a student of Computer Science and English and I'd be interested in traslation to Slovak language. However, before that I have to get accustomed to the whole wiki interface and learn how the it works. I think this is all for now. I'm just interested if it is possible to start a Slovak translation. Well, for now.. If I get this approved, I'll have other questions then.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well if you want to get more practice first you can try out the test wiki
http://test.gentoo-wiki.com you can do anythign you want there, email me when your used to the interface a little.

I'll look and see if mediawiki supports Slovak
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I've been playing with wiki for some time and I'm getting into it. I might have a look at slovak translation of wikipedia and see how to get things translated. I noticed that could not edit the main page. But it has probably been disabled or whatever.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ho hoho,

Just discovered this post. Ok then.


I've seen the Spanish part exists but is not supported (flaviooooooo where art thou?). I can help on it, but I can't start it from the beginning, I already did it for the French section, which already takes me quite a lot of time (this is a subliminal call to French/canadian/belgium/... people that want to help, they *are* welcome, we/I need help, and I can't do everything _alone in the dark_ :))

I'm looking for a French people too, to make the fr section a bit more beautiful, to edit, correct howtos... to write, simply.
Translation is still on progress, but I need help on this too :)

once again, thanks Thrasher :)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think an Finnish Gentoo-Wiki would be a too bad idea. No-one can really do it themselves but if a few Finnish-speaking people would like to participate it would sure be a nice idea.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can we have the http://zh.gentoo-wiki.com for Chinese Gentoo Users?

I found pages in the wiki is really useful for me diving into Gentoo.:) So i believe the Chinese users will benefit from if there are also the translated version.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I'm a dane, I guess I can help out with the Danish section of the Wiki. I'm pretty articulate (don't mistake my lack of English skills with a lack of talent in other linguistic endavours), so it shouldn't be hard. :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go Thrasher :D
I could do one in Irish, not sure if anyone would use it, as there arnt that many native irish speakers left, and im not sure many of them use linux.
But if there is interest ;)
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