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dhalsiim
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| nazgum wrote: | I just wanted to share a fact I found worked for me.
Using the radeon driver (not fglrx) - I found 6.8 very slow with xcompmgr active, and somewhat buggy with shadows enabled.
This was using the 2.6.7 kernel.
Upgrading to the 2.6.8-r3 kernel gave me a big speed increase and improved the stability with shadows on.
I'm guessing the radeon driver in 2.6.8 is a lot better then the 2.6.7 one.
Maybe this'll help someone else  |
... I'm running 2.6.9 and putting on shadows/transparency makes my windows move hippo slow. I'm not a big fan of transparency OR shadows, therefore I downgraded xorg to 6.7.0-r2. I don't play games nor do I do any fancy 3D, just Anime, anime and more anime. xD
Stuart_Gilbert: Oi .. well if you want to make things work, like Mythos is suggesting, you'll probably want to keep binary tbz's of both 6.7.0 and 6.8.0. Whenever I get news that things are working fine with radeon drivers and the new xorg I can simply "emerge -K xorg-x11" ^^ Fast and easy. (I already had 6.8.0 installed so I did "quickpkg xorg-x11" and it created a tbz for me. I did the same for 6.7.0-r2 once it was done compiling).
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frameRATE
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| Plastic wrote: | DPMS seems to be the cause of many of the crashes. Try adding this to your .xinitrc
It disables DPMS completely. I think it solved my problem (running for over 30 minutes, a record for me). |
I'm pretty sure DPMS was my problem as well, but I've switched back to 6.7.0 for now... I'd rather have non-burned out LCD's than see through windows for now 
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gurke
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hi, i still havent got it working correctly. i even built up a new system from ground.
so heres what i get:
http://info.flowerz.de/glitch.png
this is what i am running:
Linux ghost 2.6.8-gentoo-r3 #1 SMP Mon Sep 13 09:43:37 CEST 2004 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
nvidia geforce fx 5650 go, driver 6111 built from ebuild
this is my xorg.conf:
| Code: | Section "Module"
Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
EndSection
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/local/"
EndSection
Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "kbd"
Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "de"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "LCD"
DisplaySize 512 320
HorizSync 31.5-110.0
VertRefresh 28-90
Modeline "1920x1200" 161.750000 1920 2020 2052 2184 1200 1202 1208 1235 -HSync -VSync
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "NoLogo" "True"
Option "RenderAccel" "True"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "NVIDIA"
Monitor "LCD"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1920x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1920x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1920x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Simple Layout"
Screen "Screen 1"
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
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someone got an idea?? |
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StringCheesian
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Wow, am I the only one not getting any crashes or artifacts? I've got the fluxbox windows-won't-raise issue, but that's it. Everything else: glxgears, shadows, and transparency works fast and stable, both on my gcc 3.3 install and my gcc 3.4 install. I haven't installed gaim or xfce4 (yet).
nVidia GeForce FX 5700 (driver version 1.0.6111)
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe" |
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sgant
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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StringCheesian, you're not alone.
I haven't had any problems upgrading to xorg 6.8 either. OpenGL works fine, can play my EnemyTerritory fine, even WineX running Everquest and Warcraft 3 works fine.
Running kde 3.3 on a Geforce 4ti, nvidia-kernel, nvidia-gl, gcc 3.4, CFLAGS="-march=athlon-xp -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe"
Everything is running tip top here. I want to point out that I'm certainly not showing off nor saying I don't care about people that are having real problems. I'm only pointing out that there are people out here that have gotten everything running. I don't know exactly what I did right or wrong to get where I am other than "emerge -uDv world" and it installed xorg 6.8.
I take that back though, I did have to compile xorg with USE=xprint...but that's it. |
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Isaiah
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| sgant wrote: | | StringCheesian, you're not alone. |
Ditto dat - still on the test box though |
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SysOP XXL
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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XOrg-x11 6.8.0 is running perfectly here! Except for two glitches - later.
It IS faster than XFree, and it strangely gets faster, if I run (transparencies, no shadows, fading):
My specs are:
566@850 Coppermine celeron (so march=pentium3), 384MB RAM, GCC 3.4, NPTL, nvidia, 4k stacks, REGPARM, 2.6.9-rc1-nitro4.
The two glitches:
- Opera leaves artifacts when I scroll, while the page is still loading. When I turn off xcompmgr, it goes away.
- With the Enlightenment theme I was using, the shadows weren't resized to the true size of the titlebar. I've changed to XFCE4 (this fading effect suits it more anyway
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neenee
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| no problems here either |
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scoobydu
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Back to 6.7.0r2 for me! far two many hard lockups for any use 
/scooby thought he was using windows again with all those f#$ck ups!
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ashtophet
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[same behaviour 'bout Opera]...
What about -C and -F switches... For me it gives "invalid option"...
And any resources about possible switches to xcompmgr? I have no docs / man pages here.
thanks |
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Raistlin
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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from xcompmgr.c
| Code: | switch (o) {
case 'd':
display = optarg;
break;
case 's':
compMode = CompServerShadows;
break;
case 'c':
compMode = CompClientShadows;
break;
case 'n':
compMode = CompSimple;
break;
case 'f':
fadeWindows = True;
break;
case 'a':
autoRedirect = True;
break;
case 'S':
synchronize = True;
break;
default:
usage (argv[0]);
break;
}
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cheers, raist
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SysOP XXL
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Forgot to mention, the xcompmgr I'm using is the CVS version.
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OPTIONS
-d display
Specifies the display to manage.
Specifies the display to manage.
-a Automatic server-side compositing. This instructs the server to
use the standard composition rules. Useful for debugging.
-c Client-side compositing with soft shadows and translucency sup-
port.
-f When -c is specified, enables a smooth fade effect for transient
windows like menus, and for all windows on hide and restore
events.
-n Simple client-side compositing.
-s Server-side compositing with hard-edged shadows.
-C When -c is specified, attempts to avoid painting shadows on pan-
els and docks.
-F When -f is specified, also enables the fade effect when windows
change their opacity, as with transset(1).
-S Enables synchronous operation. Useful for debugging.
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ashtophet
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| thanX both |
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ashtophet
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Tried right now xcompmgr (and transset) cvs and fading efect is amazing...
thanks again |
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Mythos
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:55 am Post subject: Xorg 6.8.0 OpenGl ... |
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Hi there, i want to know if anyone have try using fgrlx driver sucefull,
With this new xorg i only manage working my X with kernel and xorg driver's, including opengl.
If i use ati-drivers, xorg became instable !
Are there any new driver's with xorg 6.8 support ?
I want xorg running with ati-driver's, they are faster in opengl!
My card is an ATI RADEON 9200 SE (agp 128mb).
Note: xorg version <2.7.99 ati-drivers works fine!
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Tyir
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:58 am Post subject: |
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so whats the situation on the fluxbox won't raise? WIll it be fixed soon?
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Mythos
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:05 am Post subject: LOL |
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bash-2.05b# emerge ati-drivers
Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 1) media-video/ati-drivers-3.12.0 to /
>>> md5 src_uri fglrx-4.3.0-3.12.0.i386.rpm
* you are using a xorg-x11 version too new !!!
* You must downgrade to xorg-x11-6.7.0 otherwise
* trying to use opengl will crash X
!!! ERROR: media-video/ati-drivers-3.12.0 failed.
!!! Function pkg_setup, Line 44, Exitcode 0
!!! Better safe than sorry.
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Kevin72594
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Tyir: I believe it's fixed in flubox cvs, I saw an ebuild for it here somewhere...I can't find it though so here's mine if you need it:
| Code: | inherit eutils cvs
IUSE="nls xinerama truetype kde gnome"
DESCRIPTION="Fluxbox is a lightweight windowmanager for X featuring tabs."
#SRC_URI="mirror://sourceforge/fluxbox/${P}.tar.bz2"
HOMEPAGE="http://www.fluxbox.org"
# Please note that USE="kde gnome" simply adds support for the respective
# protocols, and does not depend on external libraries. They do, however,
# make the binary a fair bit bigger, so we don't want to turn them on unless
# the user actually wants them.
ECVS_SERVER="cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/fluxbox"
ECVS_MODULE="fluxbox"
ECVS_TOP_DIR="${DISTDIR}/cvs-src/${PN}"
S=${WORKDIR}/${ECVS_MODULE}
RDEPEND="virtual/x11
truetype? ( media-libs/freetype )
nls? ( sys-devel/gettext )"
DEPEND="!x11-wm/fluxbox
>=sys-devel/autoconf-2.52
${RDEPEND}"
PROVIDE="virtual/blackbox"
SLOT="0"
LICENSE="MIT"
KEYWORDS="~x86 ~ppc ~sparc ~amd64 ~alpha ~hppa ~ia64 ~mips ~ppc64 ~macos"
src_unpack() {
cvs_src_unpack
}
src_compile() {
export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig
./autogen.sh
econf \
`use_enable nls` \
`use_enable xinerama` \
`use_enable truetype xft` \
`use_enable kde` \
`use_enable gnome` \
--sysconfdir=/etc/X11/${PN} \
${myconf} || die "configure failed"
emake || die "make failed"
}
src_install() {
dodir /usr/share/fluxbox
make DESTDIR=${D} install || die "make install failed"
dodoc README* AUTHORS TODO* COPYING
dodir /usr/share/xsessions
insinto /usr/share/xsessions
doins ${FILESDIR}/${PN}.desktop
dodir /etc/X11/Sessions
echo "/usr/bin/startfluxbox" > ${D}/etc/X11/Sessions/fluxbox
fperms a+x /etc/X11/Sessions/fluxbox
}
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put it in your portage overlay directory and name it fluxbox-cvs-***.ebuild
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discomfitor
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:19 am Post subject: |
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I fixed the problem I was having with crashing gtk apps (well, maybe I didn't do it, but when I did this it worked). I emerged xorg-x11 again today with "-mno-sse2" in my CFLAGS and lo, it was good. Now running it with the cvs version of xcompmgr and all I can say is that it's an eyegasm.
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| Can I use SSE2 and SSE together in my make.conf ? |
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darkn0th
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Hi Mythos,
I solved that one by going to edit the /usr/portage/media-video/ati-drivers/ati-drivers-3.12.0.ebuild and deleting the lines related to testing if the version of X is above xorg-x11-6.7.0.x . Then you can emerge the drivers with no problem |
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darkn0th
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Hi,
I'm using X11R6.8 with ati-drivers or radeon drivers on a dual AthlonMP1800+ / radeon 9000 dualhead setup. Or at least I'm trying to  . Here are my results so far:
- with ati-drivers: gnome crashes when using startx, as does gdm. Fluxbox works... but xcompmgr (cvs version) doesn't work since the Damage extension claims to not be loaded (from xdpyinfo: )
| Code: | number of extensions: 30
ATIFGLEXTENSION
ATIFGLRXDRI
ATITVOUT
BIG-REQUESTS
Composite
DOUBLE-BUFFER
DPMS
Extended-Visual-Information
GLX
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but x.org's log claims to load it! : | Code: |
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep DAMAGE
(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
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No idea what's going on there. I'm trying to compile fluidportage's CVS gnome 2.7.1 but that's a different problem (compile will brake for various packages but most work... except crucial ones like gnome-cvs or nautilus-cvs. I guess I just need to be patient).
- with radeon drivers gnome still crashes (I'm wondering about clearing out .gconf as well as .gnome for that). However with Fluxbox it works, and I can get the damage extension loaded properly. activating xcompmgr -s or -c leaves me with some effects that the screen doesn't refresh properly and it slows down horrendously with just a couple of xterms open. Even worse than with Project Looking Glass 3D... weird. Any ideas ? |
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DFanick
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:17 pm Post subject: experience |
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Some experiences:
It seems that xorg's6.8 opengl works more stable and errorfree with gnome&gdm than with kde&kdm.
xcompmgr should be turned off while using gl anyway.
DFanick
p4,nvidia geforce2,kernel2.6.8.1 |
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Mythos
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| Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| darkn0th wrote: | Hi,
I'm using X11R6.8 with ati-drivers or radeon drivers on a dual AthlonMP1800+ / radeon 9000 dualhead setup. Or at least I'm trying to . Here are my results so far:
- with ati-drivers: gnome crashes when using startx, as does gdm. Fluxbox works... but xcompmgr (cvs version) doesn't work since the Damage extension claims to not be loaded (from xdpyinfo: )
| Code: | number of extensions: 30
ATIFGLEXTENSION
ATIFGLRXDRI
ATITVOUT
BIG-REQUESTS
Composite
DOUBLE-BUFFER
DPMS
Extended-Visual-Information
GLX
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but x.org's log claims to load it! : | Code: |
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep DAMAGE
(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
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No idea what's going on there. I'm trying to compile fluidportage's CVS gnome 2.7.1 but that's a different problem (compile will brake for various packages but most work... except crucial ones like gnome-cvs or nautilus-cvs. I guess I just need to be patient).
- with radeon drivers gnome still crashes (I'm wondering about clearing out .gconf as well as .gnome for that). However with Fluxbox it works, and I can get the damage extension loaded properly. activating xcompmgr -s or -c leaves me with some effects that the screen doesn't refresh properly and it slows down horrendously with just a couple of xterms open. Even worse than with Project Looking Glass 3D... weird. Any ideas ? |
see the reason of the error message
You can't use ati-drivers to have a stable xorg 6.8 ...
i resolved that using radeon driver and kernel radeon dri
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