XOrg 6.7.99.x / 6.8.0

Dolio · l33t Joined: 17 Jun 2002 Posts: 650

It sounds like they won't be releasing source packages until the actual release, so it probably won't make it into portage. However, you might be able to convince some of the more experimental ebuild writers here (redeeman, etc.) to make an xorg-cvs ebuild.

This is indeed exciting.
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playfool · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject:

It appears that fluidportage has xorg-cvs ebuilds already:

http://redeeman.kaspersandberg.com/fluidportage/trunk/

Useful Idiot · Guru Joined: 30 Aug 2002 Posts: 329 Location: Finland

Gentoo's X maintaner said that the alpha(which was never released) and beta will go to portage although they will be masked in the package.mask. Unfortunately he is now on holiday and won't return until the 16th.

Here's the post he made to gentoo-desktop.
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Cossins · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:47 pm Post subject:

The Changelog says that this release will sport XDamage and XComposite, the extensions that made up the legendary fd.o xserver (transparent windows, shadows, remember?). They will probably be disabled by default (due to being in alpha state), but it seems we are finally making the move for the composite desktop! Great news indeed.

- Simon
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Dolio · l33t Joined: 17 Jun 2002 Posts: 650

I just hope it will work with my nVidia drivers. I don't think I can choose between XComposite and OpenGL acceleration.
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Dolio · l33t Joined: 17 Jun 2002 Posts: 650

I just did a cvs checkout of 6_7_99_1 and it compiled without trouble, apparently.

I don't know if I'm brave enough to actually install it.

Edit: For those that are, make sure to run quickpkg to make a binary package of your current Xorg setup for easy reinstall.
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SkizotD · n00b Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 52 Location: Athens, Ohio

So will we see any changes right away? or do we have to wait untill the desktop managers implement the new features?

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Cossins · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:39 pm Post subject:

Besides, you won't need specific integration, since composition is on a different level than the window manager. This means that it can render transparent windows without letting the WM know. Of course, if you want integration (i.e. right-click a window and select opacity), you need specific support.

This was demonstrated with xserver and xcompmgr of fd.o fame.

- Simon
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Voltago · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:43 pm Post subject:

What happened to fd.o? Is it dead?

Cossins · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:54 pm Post subject:

Voltago · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:48 pm Post subject:

Yes i meant fd.o XServer, thanks.

Dolio · l33t Joined: 17 Jun 2002 Posts: 650

I took the plunge and did a 'make install' on my cvs checkout. Strangely enough, that took way longer than the 'make World'.

I got it to run twm. And at first I didn't notice much of a difference. I didn't notice any documentation on how to turn on the composite extention or XFixes and XDamage, so I don't know if that capability is in there.

It did seem to dislike KDE, though. KDM basically hung without displaying anything, and launching Konqueror from an xterm was hit-or-miss. I got it to load up once (slowly), but on subsequent tries it just hung until I hit C-c to close it.

On the upside, the nvidia drivers appeared to work without incident.

I look forward to seeing the final product some time after the 25th.
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codergeek42 · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:35 am Post subject:

Mindstab · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:49 am Post subject:

I haven't seen people and i haven't been ths excited about X releases in a long time. This is a good sign
A new and higly active and cool team working on X.
It's an exciting time.
I'm actually reading the release wranglers mailing list waiting.
Desktop linux just gets better and better

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irondog · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:55 am Post subject:

This is what X needed: do not try to re-invent the wheel, but improve it.

I'm now just curious (when we have the composite and damage extensions supported in the closed source drivers) X's 'look and feel' will get better. That's much more important than having translucent windows dropping shadows on each other.

Dragging a window over an other one gives a kind of echo. Looks very bad and can be done with every x11 app on every computer running XFree / Xorg.
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John5788 · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:05 am Post subject:

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badMojo · n00b Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 53

I have installed the latest branch of Xorg and enabled composite in my xorg.conf.

Everything seems to work fine, even with the nvidia drivers and TwinView.

However, I cannot find a composition manager for the xorg server, so I cannot enable the new effects. Is there a xcompmgr for this version of Xorg?

floam · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:56 pm Post subject:

I've built Xorg (with composite) from cvs and xcompmgr from cvs. I got shadows to work, but my text gets screwy. This bug I reported has a screenshot: https://freedesktop.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1053
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MrStaticVoid · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:15 pm Post subject:

Indeed, I have the same problem as floam with the proprietary ati-drivers and the built in radeon drivers, so I don't think the drivers have anything to do with it. Actually, it works best with xcompmgr -c. If I try any other effects (xcompmgr -s or the composition manager in metacity), the windows become just white blocks and all of my text goes away. I spent some time in #xorg and #freedesktop on freenode last night, and the apparently I'm not the only one experiencing Composite problems. It is still very buugy. I just hope they can fix it up by the 25th.

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floam · Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:44 pm Post subject: