[problem] Still another 'ugly fonts' problem... Help needed.

spacecaps · n00b Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 17

I use xorg to render my fonts. They look really ugly. All the posts about this on the forum did not help.

In fact, they look really ugly when AA is off. I think this is the real problem : Here is a pic
What I would like to have is something like that : Pic

Using antialiasing with hinting doesn't help much, either. Some fonts, especially Luxi sans, really look distorted.

Using antialiasing with autohinting makes things better, but then fonts like bold Verdana, etc. are really blurry which is a real problem when consulting web pages.

I change the antialiasing/hint/autohint settings with the /etc/fonts/local.conf file.

Any ideas or suggestions are welcome...

Adamal · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:41 am Post subject:

LCD or CRT monitor?

did you emerge freetype, and did you load it in your xorg.conf configuration file.

Also if you emerged freetype did you emerge it with bindist and cjk on or off?

spacecaps · n00b Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 17

> LCD or CRT monitor?
LCD monitor, but this has no importance, as I dont like subpixel hinting.

> did you emerge freetype, and did you load it in your
> xorg.conf configuration file.
Yes.

> Also if you emerged freetype did you emerge
> it with bindist and cjk on or off?
I reemerged freetype with bindist and cjk on, but I cannot see any difference. My x.org is not compiled with cjk but this should not make any difference, I think...

Adamal · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:11 am Post subject:

The reason I asked about the LCD is that it does matter. I noticed on my laptop with an LCD screen I am having the exact same issue you are. However on my CRT desktops I have no problem with any of the fonts.

spacecaps · n00b Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 17

Hum... that's pretty weird.

My screen is a 1280x800 widescreen LCD. This might be the reason why the fonts are 'scaled'...

Any ideas?

carlosl · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:17 pm Post subject:

Hinting is not working on snapshot1.png @ jp.lozi.free.fr. Are you sure it is activated?

spacecaps · n00b Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 17

On the snapshot, autohinting is enabled. Enabling hinting instead is a little better, but not like the second shot.

Using antialias makes all the text bold and blurry. I just reinstalled my system and it was not like this before...

carlosl · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject:

Um, it seems I'm having exactly the same problem as yours, the only difference is that I'm using GNOME instead of KDE. It must be a problem between X.org, fontconfig and freetype. If this doesn't solve I'll have to go back to XFee85

.

Adamal · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:39 pm Post subject:

alkan · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:51 pm Post subject:

All the computers I set up, usually, ugly fonts = too small DPI
did you try https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=208296

Adamal · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:29 pm Post subject:

spacecaps · n00b Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 17

Changing the dpi just increases the fonts sizes.

Now I'm trying to emerge freetype with the bytecode interpreter : using bindist and cjk doesn't work, as well as editing ftoptions.h : I always get :

* Bytecode Interpreter is disabled.

Adamal · Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 6:36 pm Post subject:

spacecaps · n00b Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 17

I see it while freetype is being emerged.

It doesn't appear anymore when I use -bindist -cjk.

I followed the instructions at https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=129728&highlight=fuzzy+bold+fonts :