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charlesnadeau
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 Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 2:21 am Post subject: KDE 3.2.3 freezes randomly |
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Recently I upgraded KDE to 3.2.3. Since them it kept on freezing randomly. I tried two differents kernel (linux-2.4.24-openmosix-r3 and linux-2.4.26) and the problem occur regardless of the kernel.
Can I go back to 3.2.2 (or 3.2.1 as they were rock-solid on my system) just by changing
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in my /etc/rc.conf?
Or should I unmerge 3.2.3 then re-emerge 3.2.2 (or 3.2.1)?
Thanks!
Charles
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:13 am Post subject: |
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I could be mistaken but I believe in order to go back to a previous version of KDE you will need to unemerge kde 3.2.3 before reemerging a previous version
also have you tried getting the 3.2.3 packages from a different mirror? I ask because I am running 3.2.3 without any major issues
HTH
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charlesnadeau
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| GentooSamurai wrote: | | I could be mistaken but I believe in order to go back to a previous version of KDE you will need to unemerge kde 3.2.3 before reemerging a previous version |
This is what I thought... 
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also have you tried getting the 3.2.3 packages from a different mirror? |
I am using mirror.gentoo.gr.jp and I never had any problem before with any packages downloaded from there. Did you heard of any consistency problem with kde from mirrors to mirrors.
| Quote: | I ask because I am running 3.2.3 without any major issues
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Maybe I should unmerge kde, erase all the kde packages I have under /usr/portage/distfiles, change the mirror and re-emerge everything... It will take longer than I had planned.
Thanks for your comments!
Charles
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GentooSamurai
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:17 am Post subject: |
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to answer your 2nd question, I myself have not heard of any problems with the mirror you are using, are you using packages from ~ARCH or ARCH?
and I think that may be the the best option for now if you are having major issues with KDE 3.2.3, I have been searching the forums and have been unable to find a howto on how to downgrade installed packages  maybe I need to read the portage docs again. charlesnadeau you are welcome sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. Let me know how things work out for you
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charlesnadeau
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| GentooSamurai wrote: | | to answer your 2nd question, I myself have not heard of any problems with the mirror you are using, are you using packages from ~ARCH or ARCH? |
ARCH.
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and I think that may be the the best option for now if you are having major issues with KDE 3.2.3, I have been searching the forums and have been unable to find a howto on how to downgrade installed packages |
Same here.
| Quote: | maybe I need to read the portage docs again. charlesnadeau you are welcome sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. Let me know how things work out for you
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Thanks a lot!
Charles
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GentooSamurai
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:04 am Post subject: |
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ok
and you are more then welcome, best of luck let me know how things turn out 
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Paulten
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cpu overheating? Ram problem? Does not sound like a kde issue.....
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smasher
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Have you upgraded you video card recently? I had a similar issue. X would randomly peg out my cpu. I was still able to login through SSH and kill the X server. At first I thought it was bug causing random lockups. After much recompiling and trying different window managers I took a chance and upgraded my power supply. My old power supply was 300watt, thought it was enough. Since I've upgraded to a 480 watt power supply no more X lockups.
Here's a helpful URL to give you an estimate on what wattage your system may require:
http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/ |
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charlesnadeau
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charlesnadeau
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| smasher wrote: | Have you upgraded you video card recently? I had a similar issue. X would randomly peg out my cpu. I was still able to login through SSH and kill the X server. At first I thought it was bug causing random lockups. After much recompiling and trying different window managers I took a chance and upgraded my power supply. My old power supply was 300watt, thought it was enough. Since I've upgraded to a 480 watt power supply no more X lockups.
Here's a helpful URL to give you an estimate on what wattage your system may require:
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I haven't changed any components for over a year and a half. I didn't move the computer, its fans are all running as usual.
Thanks for the link I'll check it out.
Thanks for your hint!
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I managed to go back to 3.1.5 (it was still installed somewhere on my system, probably because it was the last member of the "3.1 line") the way I mentionned on my initial post in this thread.
I am now at almost 10 hours of uptime, more than any of my 3.2.3 "session". I'll see tomorrow if it has survived the night.
3.1.5 looks ugly compared to 3.2.3 but it is more stable  , so I'll keep it: I think I am too lazy to remove 3.2.3 and go back to 3.2.2 as GentooSamurai suggested...
Thanks to those who helped, I'll keep you posted.
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Dolio
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What are the symptoms?
I've lately been getting situations where on heavy disk access from KDE (it seems), it freezes X (but the KDE stuff seems to keep running, like the disk transfers). The mouse still works, but the keyboard stops working, and I can't switch desktops or do anything with any X apps.
I can solve the problem by logging in via ssh and doing a kill -9 on X (which at that point is using about 95% cpu). Are these the same symptoms, or is it a hard freeze you're getting?
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Charles,
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charlesnadeau
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| Dolio wrote: | | What are the symptoms? |
The system just freezes on me. I had freezes in KNode, Kontact, Konsole and Firefox. I tried to log in through ssh from another machine but got an error message saying something like "Can't find a route to host". When it freezes, there is no ususual disk activity and I do not run out of memory (i.e. it isn't a "swap storm").
Which log file would contain the most recent valuable information on what happen at the moment of (or shortly before) the freeze?
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I've lately been getting situations where on heavy disk access from KDE (it seems), it freezes X (but the KDE stuff seems to keep running, like the disk transfers). The mouse still works, but the keyboard stops working, and I can't switch desktops or do anything with any X apps.
I can solve the problem by logging in via ssh and doing a kill -9 on X (which at that point is using about 95% cpu). Are these the same symptoms, or is it a hard freeze you're getting? |
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