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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HMM, no go.

2.6.9-rc1:
it isn't possible to burn a CD as normal user.
cdrecord complains about an error mentioned in another thread
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=207088&highlight=cannot+allocate+memory+cdrecord

2.6.8-gentoo-r2:
seems to work except for audio cds.
The memleak is still there because 2.6.8 is used not 2.6.8.1
or have I missed something?


Now, I'm using 2.6.7-gentoo-r14 and everything works fine :-)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is supposedly fixed in gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.8-r3
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: problems with gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.8 Reply with quote

HermanR wrote:

(1) No bootsplash. This patch seems missing.

Anyone noticed these too? Suggestions?

All help will be appreciated!


Okey. I know sollution for that bootsplash thing. You should use GenSplash. It is rewrite from Bootsplash. gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.8-r1 supports this already and it works really fine if not better than bootsplash.

Here is unofficial gensplash faq: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anthonyr wrote:
It's the first kernel released under the "we don't need no stinkin' stable branch" philosophy.

you have misunderstood here - firstly, its more that there isnt any need for an unstable tree right now. secondly, its certainly not the first kernel released under this "philosophy", its the 9th. its just that only recently, people have been more vocal about the lack of need for a 2.7 tree.

as for the SATA issues, the "proper" method is to use the newer libata SATA drivers found under the SCSI section. yes, this means you'll have to boot your disk from /dev/sda3 or similar (as opposed to hde3).
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: cdr issue Reply with quote

for the cdr issue

are you guys using the kernel boot param

hdc=ide-cd #!where hdc is your cdrw device like /dev/hdc

or are you using

hdc=ide-scsi #!this is depreciated and may not be functional
#!you do NOT need scsi emulation with ide-cd


for vfat issues, try compiling vfat as a module....also set the 'gui=' or 'uid=' and even 'users' in fstab so users can access data..
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:29 pm    Post subject: vfat Reply with quote

I have vfat compiled in the kernel and so not as module
and it works great here
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you have misunderstood here - firstly, its more that there isnt any need for an unstable tree right now. secondly, its certainly not the first kernel released under this "philosophy", its the 9th. its just that only recently, people have been more vocal about the lack of need for a 2.7 tree.

The last sentence contradicts what you said in the first. If more people are complaining, then isn't that a good indicator that stability needs to be addressed, perhaps by separating stable and development branches?

I think its a big mistake to leave stable kernel building to distributions. No disrespect meant to you or other distro developers. It's just the duplication of effort. And isn't this going to impede the circulation of bug reports and patches?

After all of these years that we bashed Windows for poor stability, we're now going to release kernels without stability at the fore. If one person doesn't want to maintain a stable branch, then why not a small group of folks from the distros? I don't know. I don't follow LKML. Just seems like a mistake.

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as for the SATA issues, the "proper" method is to use the newer libata SATA drivers found under the SCSI section. yes, this means you'll have to boot your disk from /dev/sda3 or similar (as opposed to hde3).

No problem. I'll adapt. Thanks for putting out the word.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gcasillo wrote:
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you have misunderstood here - firstly, its more that there isnt any need for an unstable tree right now. secondly, its certainly not the first kernel released under this "philosophy", its the 9th. its just that only recently, people have been more vocal about the lack of need for a 2.7 tree.

The last sentence contradicts what you said in the first. If more people are complaining, then isn't that a good indicator that stability needs to be addressed, perhaps by separating stable and development branches?


bad wording perhaps - i was not suggesting that more people were complaining. by "more vocal" i was simply referring to how Linus stood up and said "look, this is what is happening" (even though it had already been going on for months, it was just the first time anyone put it into words).

as for the "stability" concerns, i'm not aware of any major crash issues introduced in 2.6.8 so i assume you are just referring to how the policy for sending SCSI commands has changed (breaking cd writing software). my opinion here is that cd writing in Linux is a mess, and i'd rather it got changed and fixed now, rather than forking off a 2.7 tree, fixing it there, and not getting the improvements into mainline for 2 years or so.
remember, there is always 2.4 available if you require a kernel that isnt going to change much.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

on a related note, for gentoo-dev-sources i'm considering setting the TCP default window scaling back to 0 by default in order to fix the network problems that people (including myself) are running into from a default configuration.

see : http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/

i'd be interested to hear how many people this has affected, so responses would be appreciated:
did you notice big network performance degradation after upgrading to 2.6.8? did you not notice anything? or did you notice a performance increase?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dsd, thanks for your work on all of this stuff. Efforts like yours make Gentoo Linux rock.

Yeah, CD/DVD handling in Linux is a mess, and I second your opinion.

Network issues have definitely been a problem lately. Not limited to kernel or kdelibs for me either. My DSL line was recently upgraded from 768k to 1.5M, and I had to conference together my ISP and telco to get the telco to fix my line that they botched. :roll:

Sometimes the road is uphill.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:46 pm    Post subject: mounting vfat Reply with quote

I don't know if this is already widely known or has been posted somewhere else, but I'm going to try to fix the vfat mounting problem. It seems that most people have been having trouble with this because of the native language support in the kernel. To be able to mount vfat, you must have a default nls codepage and a default iso-8856 standard. You must also make sure that under Native Language Support, you have BOTH compiled in. I've always had a codepage but I've never had the iso standard, so once I compiled those both in and set the defaults to match them, I had no problem mounting VFAT partitions whatsoever. I hope this helps other people.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I just emerged gentoo-dev-sources kernel 2.6.8 and well let me see no sound (Sound Blaster 5.1!) can't mount ? why ?
I just switched from 2.4.26 to 2.6.8 can some one give me some lights please little lost :P
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fix-85 wrote:
Tanisete wrote:
It's contained.
NFS is network filesystem..
I'm testing 2.6.8... having problems with alsa-driver emerged...


Alright, so I assume that NFS is a feature that "normal" users like me don't use, right ?


**EDIT**

Thanks to arthurtech, I can now compile the new kernel without worrying about some silly bug ;)


NFS is a big thing in the Unix world. In windows you use shares and the windows networking, in unix you use NFS to mount i.e /pub from your server on your desktop computer. There are many ways to do this ofcourse but NFS is the main Network File System in unix
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:09 pm    Post subject: TCP Window Scaling Set back to 0 Reply with quote

dsd wrote:
on a related note, for gentoo-dev-sources i'm considering setting the TCP default window scaling back to 0 by default in order to fix the network problems that people (including myself) are running into from a default configuration.

see : http://lwn.net/Articles/92727/

i'd be interested to hear how many people this has affected, so responses would be appreciated:
did you notice big network performance degradation after upgrading to 2.6.8? did you not notice anything? or did you notice a performance increase?


This baffled me for some time, and I spent a long time tracking it down. Even though the fix is as easy as:

Code:
sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_default_win_scale=0


I would agree that in gentoo-dev-sources it should be changed.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demoniac_LL wrote:
Well I just emerged gentoo-dev-sources kernel 2.6.8 and well let me see no sound (Sound Blaster 5.1!) can't mount ? why ?
I just switched from 2.4.26 to 2.6.8 can some one give me some lights please little lost :P

I don't really have anything deep to say, but it seems that 2.6.8 gives lots of people lots of trouble. The experiences with 2.6.7 are much better, it seems. So I'd try out 2.6.7 if I were you.
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