WARNING: NPTL caused problems with Amarok and Kaffeine

nahpets

I emerged glibc using "The Native POSIX Thread Library" or NPTL:

firephoto · Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:14 am Post subject:

They work fine here. I've had nptl in my use flags for many months and hardly a problem if any.

Did you re-emerge amarok and kaffeine after you emerged glibc?

nahpets · Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:33 am Post subject:

yes. Still didn't work. Did you recompile all of KDE after emerging NTPL with GLIBC? I would suspect that if I have to remerge anything, I would have to do the whole dep chain for KDE (ie. Qt, arts, kdelibs...). Although, now that I think about it, both programs use aRts, so maybe simply recompiling that may solve the problem?

It's not supposed to matter since the thread-handling mechanism of glibc is transparent to the application programs. I read on Ulrich Drepper's homepage that there *is* a difference in the signaling/message passing implementations that may cause problems.

I saved my ntpl glibc usign quickpkg, so I can remerge it and do some more testing when I get some spare time later this week. I'll first try recompiling aRts and see what happens.

firephoto · Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 6:58 am Post subject:

nahpets · Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:06 pm Post subject:

I did a reboot and the same thing happened. I'm also using "linux26-headers".

teutzz · Guru Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 333 Location: .ro

nahpets · Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:23 pm Post subject:

you sure about that? The posts in the forums say that the thread handling in glibc is supposed to be transparent, therefore no recompiling required.

teutzz · Guru Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 333 Location: .ro

don't belive all that you read, i did convert to NPTL some months ago and the very first thing i did after that was an emerge -e world and no problems emerged
there quite many posts around the forum that state you must recompile your whole system in order to be sure U are not going to have problems(TM)
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nahpets · Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:42 pm Post subject:

hmm... I guess I'll stick to using "linuxthreads" for now then... emerge -e on my P3/866 will take forever...

teutzz · Guru Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 333 Location: .ro

maybe 3-4 days (if you don't have openoffice installed from source) logged into X and doing the things that you normally do (also this a good opportunity to make the change to gcc-3.4, modify your use flags and cflags)
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nahpets · Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:07 pm Post subject:

superjaded · l33t Joined: 05 Jul 2002 Posts: 802

Heh, everyone's experience with nptl is different.
I, for example, had problems with XMMS, mplayer and the binary nVidia drivers.
Recompiling the various things didn't help at all. XMMS and mplayer still segfaulted and the nVidia drivers hardlocked my system.

Of course, this was probably close to six months ago and I tried it again a few months later and XMMS, mplayer and the nVidia drivers work fine. I never did an emerge -e world.

Because programs do dynamically link to glibc, however, unless (doubtful) include files changed, you should not have to recompile everything, except perhaps if you upgraded from the 2.4 headers (which are, by default, installed even if you have a 2.6 kernel) to the 2.6 headers.

nahpets · Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:45 am Post subject:

teutzz · Guru Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 333 Location: .ro

timeout · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 09 Aug 2003 Posts: 75

i had exactly same problem. Kaffeine freeze itself and can not even start it in a console.

nahpets · Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:35 am Post subject: