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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:14 am    Post subject: KDE sound notifications gone (SOLVED) Reply with quote

Hi,

somehow KDE doesn't play any notification sounds any more :( arts is up and working with all apps, also the artsplay commandline tool.
If I press the play button of the sound notification area in the control center, I can't hear anything. Neither is any system sound played by KDE itself.
I'm not sure about it, but I think it is since I prelinked kde.
Any ideas?
Thx,
Kevin


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, mine recently quit working as well. I'm using kde 3.3 beta2 (still :P), but well, I know this kinda sucks as it's not really a fix, more of a workaround, but I just clicked on player settings and ticked use external player and filled in the box: play.

I'm not sure what's up with arts, all other sounds work fine, maybe a re-emerge of it might work - but I used konstruct to install mine. So this is just a work around as 3.3 final is due out TODAY!!!

Sorry I can't really fix it for ya, but maybe this will get you some sounds until it's figured out.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arts works actually fine! But the notification system doesn't play any sound :( It doesn't matter if I use an external player or don't. In the notifications dialog: Even clicking on the small play button next to the 'choose file text-field' doesn't play it.

Starting the dialog from a shell doesn't show any errors when pressing play. any idea how to debug this?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I'm sorry, I have no idea how to debug or fix it. I do recall after one alsa upgrade I had to re compile arts to get it to work again and I bet that'd fix mine again if I was inclined. I'm not sure what you mean by arts works fine, but then I only use it for kde sounds. :P So, I guess I made the connection in my head arts = kde sounds. But that's about the only thing I can think of is recompiling/reemerging arts. I guess you did check your kmix right?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not sure what you mean by arts works fine, but then I only use it for kde sounds.

Well you can use arts e.g. with xmms and mplayer. The advantage is that you can still get the kde sounds, because the audio device is just used by arts.
For me arts is working, so e.g. I can use "artsplay" at the command line to play a file.
But the notification thingy doesn't do it, that's the problem :?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Open ~/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc and make sure it has the following:
Code:
[StartProgress]
Arts Init=true
KNotify Init=true
Use Arts=true


If they are set to false, change them to true.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The file is ok :-/ I even moved knotify* away and restarted kde. It didn't help :( Do you think prelinking could be the reason?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kottlettstanze wrote:
Do you think prelinking could be the reason?


I'm leaning towards 'no'. Tho I'm basing this on my past experience with prelinking. I haven't updated mine in while, but it didn't break arts (or system notifications) when I re-ran it every so often after upgrades.

What version of kde are we talking about?

Also, worse comes to worst, you could mv your ~/.kde directory or log in as new user and see if it'd work then. At least that could help ya narrow it down.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

srlinuxx wrote:
What version of kde are we talking about?

3.2.3
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:23 pm    Post subject: Try this Reply with quote

https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1304682#1304682

I had your same problem and this sorted it out.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Try this Reply with quote

rafelbev wrote:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1304682#1304682

I had your same problem and this sorted it out.


It doesn't matter for me if I use ogg or wave files, the sound isn't played :( Also, specifying an external player doesn't do the job...
Are you sure you pasted the right link? :?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. I specified artsplay as my external player and everything went ok. I also restarted my whole kde environment but it shouldn't be related.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ateo wrote:
Open ~/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc and make sure it has the following:
Code:
[StartProgress]
Arts Init=true
KNotify Init=true
Use Arts=true


If they are set to false, change them to true.


Are you really, really sure this isn't the case? I had this problem, as have a fair number of other people and this is the solution.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bug that I had in 3.3 RC2 was that whenever I would login to KDE, my alsa volumes would all be reset to zero which would show that arts is working and that I wasn't hearing anything. I'm hoping that this was fixed for 3.3 final, as it's a real pain in the ass.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrew_j_w wrote:
Ateo wrote:
Open ~/.kde/share/config/knotifyrc and make sure it has the following:
Code:
[StartProgress]
Arts Init=true
KNotify Init=true
Use Arts=true


Are you really, really sure this isn't the case? I had this problem, as have a fair number of other people and this is the solution.


I double-checked it again... each character is the same :-/
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the meantime, I've got 3.3. Neat, but the problem persists. I even moved my .kde folder.
I guess the problem is: I think KDE doesn't even try to play a sound. E.g. it doesn't bring arts up if it is idling. If an external player is specified, it is never called!
Does this info help? Some global KNotify thing not allowing to play a sound?

btw. kde 3.3 compile time contest :mrgreen:
Code:
real    610m32.296s
user    449m31.461s
sys      80m18.220s
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try specifying aplay as your external player.. unless this was the player you tried (which you mention in a prior post).
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ateo wrote:
Try specifying aplay as your external player.. unless this was the player you tried (which you mention in a prior post).

I tried aplay, play and artsplay. They all work from the shell, but knotify never calls them :(
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alsp in your Prefrences->Service Manager make sure that Knotify isn't disabled.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lefteye wrote:
Alsp in your Prefrences->Service Manager make sure that Knotify isn't disabled.

Damn... there is no such service :!: Well... and now? How could I add it? :roll:
thx

[edit]There is a knotify process anyways.[/edit]
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try to start artsd at the commandline and see what it says.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arts was always running fine.
The weirdest thing: I just bootet the box today and since then it works! I yesterday unmerged KDE 3.2.3, and emerged some other stuff. Whatever the problem really was: I have no idea :|

Anyway: It works, and thanks for helping me :)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:09 am    Post subject: Updated x.org, KDE 3.3, and sound is gone Reply with quote

Due to insufficient disk space, i couldn't concurrently install kde 3.2 and 3.3, so last night i bit the bullet and completely updated all my X environment: latest X.org, latest KDE.

Amazingly enough, after changing the keyboard driver to kbd in the xorg.conf, everything works... except the sound. I've tried unmuting, everything i could think of, and absolutely no programs will give me sound in KDE. I'm hoping this is something stupid and silly, and someone wiser will toss off a suggestion that will work, cause frankly i have no more ideas.

Anyway, the new KDE looks nice...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check to be sure that the sounds in the sound notification dialog actually exist. I noticed that I wasn't getting any notifications even though everything was set right. Turns out that KDE went and ogg'd all their notification sounds where they used to be .wav and the settings weren't switched over to point to the new files. Once I did it manually, everything was fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote that in the other KDE 3.3 thread:
In the meantime I guess that arts was doing softwaremixing, and the the level of that was down. I have no idea where to change that (officially), because the volume shown in arts control was up.
Let amarok use the softwaremixer, and look at its volume control. That one shows the real softmix volume to me, arts control doesn't...
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