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 Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:24 pm Post subject: Nvidia Dual Monitor w/ TV cloneing 2nd monitor, possible? |
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I have two monitors running at 3200x1200 (1600x1200 each) . I also have the my home theater hooked up also. I can get the TV to work with twinview when it is just that and the first display, but that requires me to restart my xserver 
EDIT: I require 2 monitors + a TV
I figure there maybe 3 ways to do this, but can't find any info on them so prehaps someone can help me ouot.
- Get the TV to clone the second display?
EDIT: nv-tv-out may do this, thanks hds, I'll see later this week ~9-05
- Redirect all video overlays to the TV?
EDIT: xv overlays all go to 0:0
- Have a metamode that has the TV in it but not the secound display (so I don't have to restart X)?
EDIT: nv errors metamodes w/ 2+ devices "LCD:1600x1200, CRT:1600x1200+0+1200; LCD:800x600,TV:800x600"
Anybody got any ideas?
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what about nvtv? i have 2 monitors as well, and if i use nvtv i have the TV additionally 
unfortunetly only b/w, because my gforce2 has SVIDEO out, and my TV is unable to handle this ;( |
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Here is my xorg.conf, which will get you TwinView on your NVIDIA card with the TV being located virtually to the right of your monitor, ie. you can drag apps off the right side of your monitor and they'll appear on your TV. I find this personally to be very much better than cloning the monitor - however, if you really want to do that then you can just change the TwinView display mode to "Clone" instead of "RightOf". My TV does 1024x768, yours might not so if it doesn't show a picture you might want to change the TV modes from 1024x768 to 800x600.
You may want to read the docs in /usr/share/docs/nvidia-glx, this is all entailed in there.
| Code: | # File generated by xorgconfig.
#
# Copyright 2004 The X.Org Foundation
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
#
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
#
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL
# THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
#
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of The X.Org Foundation shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from
# The X.Org Foundation.
#
# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the xorg.conf(5x) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************
# **********************************************************************
# Module section -- this section is used to specify
# which dynamically loadable modules to load.
# **********************************************************************
#
Section "Module"
# This loads the DBE extension module.
Load "dbe" # Double buffer extension
# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
SubSection "extmod"
Option "omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
EndSubSection
# This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules
Load "type1"
Load "speedo"
Load "freetype"
# Load "xtt"
# This loads the GLX module
Load "glx"
# This loads the DRI module
# Load "dri"
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************
Section "Files"
# The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)
#
#
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/local/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TrueType/"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/freefont/"
# The module search path. The default path is shown here.
# ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************
Section "ServerFlags"
# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging
# Option "NoTrapSignals"
# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><Fn> VT switch sequence
# (where n is 1 through 12). This allows clients to receive these key
# events.
# Option "DontVTSwitch"
# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.
# Option "DontZap"
# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events.
# Option "Dont Zoom"
# Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With
# it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes,
# but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will
# receive a protocol error.
# Option "DisableVidModeExtension"
# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client.
# Option "AllowNonLocalXvidtune"
# Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device
# (mouse and keyboard) settings.
# Option "DisableModInDev"
# Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to
# change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset).
# Option "AllowNonLocalModInDev"
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************
# **********************************************************************
# Core keyboard's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "Keyboard"
# For most OSs the protocol can be omitted (it defaults to "Standard").
# When using XQUEUE (only for SVR3 and SVR4, but not Solaris),
# uncomment the following line.
# Option "Protocol" "Xqueue"
Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30"
# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
# Option "Xleds" "1 2 3"
# Option "LeftAlt" "Meta"
# Option "RightAlt" "ModeShift"
# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
# Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
# Option "XkbModel" "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# or:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
# Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps"
# These are the default XKB settings for Xorg
# Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
# Option "XkbModel" "pc101"
# Option "XkbLayout" "us"
# Option "XkbVariant" ""
# Option "XkbOptions" ""
# Option "XkbDisable"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "logiik"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Core Pointer's InputDevice section
# **********************************************************************
Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier and driver
#
# Identifier "Mouse1"
# Driver "mouse"
# Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
# Option "Device" "/dev/usbmouse"
# Option "Buttons" "7"
# Option "ZAxisMapping" "6 7"
Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "evdev"
Option "Dev Name" "Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse"
Option "Buttons" "8"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "7 8"
# Mouse-speed setting for PS/2 mouse.
# Option "Resolution" "256"
# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.
# Option "Protocol" "Xqueue"
# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In
# almost every case these lines should be omitted.
# Option "BaudRate" "9600"
# Option "SampleRate" "150"
# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)
# Option "Emulate3Buttons"
# Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice
# Option "ChordMiddle"
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Other input device sections
# this is optional and is required only if you
# are using extended input devices. This is for example only. Refer
# to the xorg.conf man page for a description of the options.
# **********************************************************************
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "Mouse2"
# Driver "mouse"
# Option "Protocol" "MouseMan"
# Option "Device" "/dev/mouse2"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "spaceball"
# Driver "magellan"
# Option "Device" "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "spaceball2"
# Driver "spaceorb"
# Option "Device" "/dev/cua0"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "touchscreen0"
# Driver "microtouch"
# Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
# Option "MinX" "1412"
# Option "MaxX" "15184"
# Option "MinY" "15372"
# Option "MaxY" "1230"
# Option "ScreenNumber" "0"
# Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
# Option "ButtonNumber" "1"
# Option "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
#
# Section "InputDevice"
# Identifier "touchscreen1"
# Driver "elo2300"
# Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
# Option "MinX" "231"
# Option "MaxX" "3868"
# Option "MinY" "3858"
# Option "MaxY" "272"
# Option "ScreenNumber" "0"
# Option "ReportingMode" "Scaled"
# Option "ButtonThreshold" "17"
# Option "ButtonNumber" "1"
# Option "SendCoreEvents"
# EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of monitor sections may be present
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Samsung SyncMaster 957MB"
# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
HorizSync 30-96
# HorizSync 30-64 # multisync
# HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies
# HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies
# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
VertRefresh 50-160
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of graphics device sections may be present
# Standard VGA Device:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Standard VGA"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
# The chipset line is optional in most cases. It can be used to override
# the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified.
# Chipset "generic"
# The Driver line must be present. When using run-time loadable driver
# modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver
# module. Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line
# indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section.
Driver "vga"
# The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices
# this section is intended for. When this line isn't present, a device
# section can only match up with the primary video device. For PCI
# devices a line like the following could be used. This line should not
# normally be included unless there is more than one video device
# intalled.
# BusID "PCI:0:10:0"
# VideoRam 256
# Clocks 25.2 28.3
EndSection
# Device configured by xorgconfig:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Leadtek GeForce FX 5900XT"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "NVAgp" "1"
Option "CursorShadow" "true"
Option "UseEdidFreqs" "true"
Option "IgnoreEDID" "false"
Option "TwinView" "true"
Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
Option "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf"
Option "TVStandard" "PAL-G"
Option "TVOutFormat" "SVideo"
Option "MetaModes" "1280x960,1024x768;1024x768,NULL;800x600,NULL"
#VideoRam 131072
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of screen sections may be present. Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen. A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "Leadtek GeForce FX 5900XT"
Monitor "Samsung SyncMaster 957MB"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x960" "1024x768" "800x600"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# ServerLayout sections.
# **********************************************************************
# Any number of ServerLayout sections may be present. Each describes
# the way multiple screens are organised. A specific ServerLayout
# section may be specified from the X server command line with the
# "-layout" option. In the absence of this, the first section is used.
# When now ServerLayout section is present, the first Screen section
# is used alone.
Section "ServerLayout"
# The Identifier line must be present
Identifier "Simple Layout"
# Each Screen line specifies a Screen section name, and optionally
# the relative position of other screens. The four names after
# primary screen name are the screens to the top, bottom, left and right
# of the primary screen. In this example, screen 2 is located to the
# right of screen 1.
Screen "Screen 1"
# Each InputDevice line specifies an InputDevice section name and
# optionally some options to specify the way the device is to be
# used. Those options include "CorePointer", "CoreKeyboard" and
# "SendCoreEvents".
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
# Section "DRI"
# Mode 0666
# EndSection
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Rodent
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Valheru: Thanks but I already have twinview enabled and working like that
hds: Thanks you, nvtv sounds like exactly what I am looking for, hopefully I will find some documation some where. BTW, I had a cheap (99¢ cheap) s-video cable that would only show b/w, try swaping w/ a known good one, maybe you'll get color. |
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OnoSendai
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:22 am Post subject: |
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Afaik, all Nvidia Cards have only 2 ram - dac's.
The only way to get this working might be an additional PCI VGA card, and a Xinerama X - Server layout.
But the drawback is that you will loose dri with Xinerama.
(an other way might be a Matrox Parhelia card..)
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| OnoSendai wrote: |
The only way to get this working might be an additional PCI VGA card |
xcuse me, but this is wrong. there are plenty users in here using the VIDEO-OUT fine - it does work, and the feature is called TwinView. |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| Rodent wrote: |
hds: Thanks you, nvtv sounds like exactly what I am looking for, hopefully I will find some documation some where. |
/usr/share/doc/nvtv-0.4.5
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-settings-1.0.6111
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6111
HTH
btw: no, its not the cable in my case, because it does work with a different TV. the TV i have does not even have a SCART. very old thing. i connected the svideo cable to a VCR and the VCR with antenna cable to the TV - i have no other choice. but the svideo signal is not converted by the VCR (i guess) though i have b/w only.
well, not importent. i hooked up an old 17" monitor to a PCI card, and voila |
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OnoSendai
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| Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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I use TwinView too.
Here there are 2 monitors connected, similar to a Xinerama layout.
| Quote: | | EDIT: I require 2 monitors + a TV |
But i can't attach an additional TV, since i use the TwinView setup already for my second monitor.
Here is the important part of my x-config:
| Code: | Section "Device"
Identifier "GeForce FX-5900XT"
Driver "nvidia"
VideoRam 131072
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
Option "NvAgp" "3"
Option "RenderAccel" "on"
Option "NoLogo" "true"
Option "TwinView"
Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "31.5-96"
Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "50-160"
Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024,1280x1024; 1024x768,null; 800x600,null; 640x480,null"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "crt,crt"
EndSection |
But as i've already written these nvidia cards have only two ramdac's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAMDAC
So please enlight me... (The only way i've found to get the tv working is to switch between the x-config files..)
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well, i think i completly lost the overview, because the 1st message has been edited so many times meanwhile 
well, if i understand this correctly now, he has 2 monitors already on one graphiccard? i still dont read what kind of nvidia he got. if this is the case i seriously dont know. you may be right that it doesnt work then.
my nvidia has one monitor output only, and one svideo. |
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| hds wrote: |
my nvidia has one monitor output only, and one svideo. |
Well... I guess an old PCI card could work...
Would you mind to post your x-config?
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Btw.. Is it possible to use <startx + some option> to choose an x-config?
(since i use 2 different configs for work and TV...)
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to get nvtv to work, you do not need any changes to xorg.
however, yes, i have an AGP and a PCI card, and 2 monitors connected. one monitor on each card. nvtv works additionally via the agp svideo out, and is totally independend from xorg.
relevant parts of xorg for 2 graphiccards:
Section "Monitor"
Option "CalcAlgorithm" "CheckDesktopGeometry"
DisplaySize 360 270
HorizSync 28-96
Identifier "Monitor[0]"
ModelName "96P97P(T)"
Option "DPMS"
VendorName "SAMTRON"
VertRefresh 50-160
UseModes "Modes[0]"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
# Option "CalcAlgorithm" "CheckDesktopGeometry"
# DisplaySize 360 270
HorizSync 31.5-82
Identifier "Monitor[1]"
ModelName "17 ZOLL"
# Option "DPMS"
VendorName "MAG"
VertRefresh 50-70
# UseModes "Modes[0]"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
DefaultDepth 24
defaultFbBpp 32
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1600x1200" "1600x1024" "1600x1000" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1600x1200" "1600x1024" "1600x1000" "1400x1050" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
Device "Device[0]"
Identifier "Screen[0]"
Monitor "Monitor[0]"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
DefaultDepth 24
# defaultFbBpp 32
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubSection
Device "Device[1]"
Identifier "Screen[1]"
Monitor "Monitor[1]"
EndSection
Section "Device"
BoardName "GeForce2 MX 100/200"
BusID "AGP:1:0:0"
Driver "nvidia"
Identifier "Device[0]"
Option "sw_cursor"
VendorName "NVidia"
EndSection
Section "Device"
BoardName "VOODOO"
BusID "PCI:0:8:0"
Driver "tdfx"
Identifier "Device[1]"
## Option "sw_cursor"
VendorName "VOODOO"
EndSection
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout[all]"
InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
Option "Clone" "on"
Option "Xinerama" "off"
Screen 0 "Screen[0]" 0 0
Screen 1 "Screen[1]" RightOf "Screen[0]"
EndSection
*note: if you want to use XINERAMA, you have to re-compile QT and sdllib with xinerama USEflags. however, i dont need that, i like to have 2 separate screens. |
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OnoSendai
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Thanks...
Maybe i'll get me a second grafic card too..
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