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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:54 pm    Post subject: How can i see what my sister was doing on the web Reply with quote

Im using a laptop and i sometimes let my sis use it to serf the web. When i come back the HISTORY in my opera and mozzilla web browser is completely erased. Is there a file or something like a file that shows all the websites visited for that day or shows all the visited sites since this computer was up. Its been up for about a month or 2 and im root.

Plz help me out cause i think my sis is trying to hide something and wont comffess.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: How can i see what my sister was doing on the web Reply with quote

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Im using a laptop and i sometimes let my sis use it to serf the web. When i come back the HISTORY in my opera and mozzilla web browser is completely erased. Is there a file or something like a file that shows all the websites visited for that day or shows all the visited sites since this computer was up. Its been up for about a month or 2 and im root.

Plz help me out cause i think my sis is trying to hide something and wont comffess.

Thank you


There are ways to do this. But there is a thing called Human Right Act.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well you have a number of options either systematically backup the web-browers files in the users home directory with a cron and/or script. or you can user a sniffer to capture all the packets and snoop through that. thoses are just two that come to mind.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friends has a friend who is using linux and he said that there is a file (didnt tell me the name or location of it, still trying to get it from him but i cant reach him) and inside the file is the list of all the websites visited.

Do u guys have any ideas on what it is or where it is?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's a long winded one.
Set up a local dns server and activate query logging, then you have a list of every domain name searched.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im only 15. Im still learning linux as its been bout 3 months since i started using it.

Tell me the easiest way to do this step by step if u can.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VladP12 wrote:
My friends has a friend who is using linux and he said that there is a file (didnt tell me the name or location of it, still trying to get it from him but i cant reach him) and inside the file is the list of all the websites visited.

Do u guys have any ideas on what it is or where it is?

tnx


grep is your friend.... if there is a file grep will find it...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

like where can i find this grep file? home dir, root dir? where i need answers
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

grep is a program that will search files for specified text
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man grep
in a terminal
then do a search for some websites you have recently visited and see if a file comes up... but i don't if there is one file or not.

Your other option, which you should do anyway is learn a scripting language. Then you just write a script that copys your sisters .mozilla directory (or even whole home directory if its small) every five minutes (making multiple copies or you will copy over them with the deleted directory). and set it to start in her .bashrc

once she has left find the last one that has content before her clear, and copy it back and login as her and check her history.

it may sound hard but in perl maybe 10-15 lines todo a simple one...

*edit* history seems to be stored in history.dat files for both mozilla and firefox so you copy those instead of whole directory
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ill try grep right now

so if i want to check to see where forums.gentoo.org is located inside a file all i do is

grep forums.gentoo.org ??
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did but i didnt understan anything. Im still learning. :( :( :( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry:
Can u or some1 plz give me the command using grep that searches for forums.gentoo.org?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i did but i didnt understan anything. Im still learning. :( :( :( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry:
Can u or some1 plz give me the command using grep that searches for forums.gentoo.org?


forget grip...

The thing you want is:

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emerge ntop

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zeky wrote:
VladP12 wrote:
i did but i didnt understan anything. Im still learning. :( :( :( :( :( :cry: :cry: :cry:
Can u or some1 plz give me the command using grep that searches for forums.gentoo.org?


forget grip...

The thing you want is:

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emerge ntop


and what now?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you
run ntop you will be asked for a password...
type in a password, them verfiy it
Then if you Ctrl-C it once it starts to run normally.

then type
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ntop -d -w 3000

Then open a webrowser to http://127.0.0.1:3000/
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg, I can't believe you are teaching this guy how to spy on his sister!! 8O
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you, kid?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey its my pc and for all i noe she could be looking at P**N. That happened before and even before that. So i want to know whats going on on my LapTop and why she is erasing the history out of my web browser. :x
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a post note, if she doesn't have her own user account you should set her up one that way u won't lose your history when she deletes hers.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note: this is for information only; I do not condone `spying` on people's web access, but if I was you I would tell your sister that she shouldn't visit any "inappropriate" websites while she uses *your* laptop to access the 'net.

Emerge a proxy (eg squid) and then you set your web browser to connect through that (port 3128 is default). Not only will it allow you to log every website visited but it also caches the data so it should speed up browsing.
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rc-update add squid default
/etc/init.d/squid start

To view the pages / websites requested...
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nano -w /var/log/squid/access.log
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, seriously, as a sysadmin, you have to trust your users at least a little bit. You can't just always pry into what they are doing. If you think she is doing something to fuck up your box, I fully agree with you wanting to know what she is up to, but if all she's doing is browsing the web, just leave her be and let her have her privacy. Believe me, she'll eventually find out that you're trying to spy on her and that loss of trust is something you will probably never get back for the rest of your life from her. Maybe she has a blog or LiveJournal or something. Really, would you like having someone watching everything you do?

If all she's doing is looking at porn, just leave her be. That's not a big deal. Really, she could do a hell of a lot worse than that.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dude, seriously, as a sysadmin, you have to trust your users at least a little bit. You can't just always pry into what they are doing. If you think she is doing something to fuck up your box, I fully agree with you wanting to know what she is up to, but if all she's doing is browsing the web, just leave her be and let her have her privacy. Believe me, she'll eventually find out that you're trying to spy on her and that loss of trust is something you will probably never get back for the rest of your life from her. Maybe she has a blog or LiveJournal or something. Really, would you like having someone watching everything you do?

If all she's doing is looking at porn, just leave her be. That's not a big deal. Really, she could do a hell of a lot worse than that.


Leave him alone. you are way over doing this moral stuff she's not going to hate him for life, its his sister, have you ever watched the simpsons ? or and family sitcom for that matter. me and my sister did tons of stuff to each other and now we are very good friends. messing with each other is part of being a sibling. an frankly this is way off topic and not the place for making moral judgements either thats for the otw section.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DarkStalker wrote:
Dude, seriously, as a sysadmin, you have to trust your users at least a little bit. You can't just always pry into what they are doing. If you think she is doing something to fuck up your box, I fully agree with you wanting to know what she is up to, but if all she's doing is browsing the web, just leave her be and let her have her privacy. Believe me, she'll eventually find out that you're trying to spy on her and that loss of trust is something you will probably never get back for the rest of your life from her. Maybe she has a blog or LiveJournal or something. Really, would you like having someone watching everything you do?

If all she's doing is looking at porn, just leave her be. That's not a big deal. Really, she could do a hell of a lot worse than that.


I couldn't agree more with this statement.
IMNSHO, DarkStalker is right on the money.
If you are THAT concerned that she might be doing something *gasp* bad or *gasp again* naughty or that she might b0rk your system, set up a user account for her with limited rights. And log her in to the account before you hand over the laptop.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scooterphish wrote:
DarkStalker wrote:
Dude, seriously, as a sysadmin, you have to trust your users at least a little bit. You can't just always pry into what they are doing. If you think she is doing something to fuck up your box, I fully agree with you wanting to know what she is up to, but if all she's doing is browsing the web, just leave her be and let her have her privacy. Believe me, she'll eventually find out that you're trying to spy on her and that loss of trust is something you will probably never get back for the rest of your life from her. Maybe she has a blog or LiveJournal or something. Really, would you like having someone watching everything you do?

If all she's doing is looking at porn, just leave her be. That's not a big deal. Really, she could do a hell of a lot worse than that.


I couldn't agree more with this statement.
IMNSHO, DarkStalker is right on the money.
If you are THAT concerned that she might be doing something *gasp* bad or *gasp again* naughty or that she might b0rk your system, set up a user account for her with limited rights. And log her in to the account before you hand over the laptop.


Or if you're really that worried, don't let her use it at all, maybe?
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