How to dump webapp-config?

Nicolinux · Apprentice Joined: 22 Dec 2002 Posts: 204

Hi,

I would like to not be forced to use webapp-config when I emerge phpmyadmin. I don't like the way webapp-config works. I know that I could inject webapp-config before installing phpmyadmin but this produces the following error:

Carlo · Developer Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3356

Nicolinux · Apprentice Joined: 22 Dec 2002 Posts: 204

The freedom of choices...
However I guess I am stuck with installing those thing on my own, without portage.

Thanks anyway.

Stefan

tecknojunky · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: How to dump webapp-config?

Carlo · Developer Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3356

Well, no reason to show us your most scary face.

Read GLEP 11, man webapp-config and whatelse you may find, join the gentoo-web-user mailing list and /flame/ there. The chance to get heard is much higher this way.
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tecknojunky · Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:05 am Post subject:

frilled · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:44 am Post subject:

Well. I have to admin that webapp-config is the first "feature" of Gentoo that I can really, utterly and with extreme violence hate.

Man. That thing cost me an hour of my life plus tweo weeks I will die sooner because of additional strain from heavy stress :evil:

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tecknojunky · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:09 am Post subject:

Post your rant here. :twisted:

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westi · n00b Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 5 Location: UK

What is it that you all particulaly hate about webapp-config?

With use=-vhosts it should make no difference to your usage of webapps installed via portage.

Be specific with you problems - post bugs or join gentoo-web-user and vent your anger ;-)

frilled · Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: webapp-config

westi · n00b Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 5 Location: UK

cyberpatrol · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:55 pm Post subject:

Because Carlo has closed my own thread I just post it here again.

After searching and reading a while in the forum and in this thread I found that it should be enough to set the use flag "-vhost" to get rid of this webapp-config. But unfortunatly it's not true. On the contrary webapp-config's behaviour is more annoying than without use flag "-vhost".

And I didn't find a useful and readable and understandable documentation for this webapp-config. This GLEP 11 thing is only useful for developers and manpages - also the webapp-config manpage - are just a documentation about the syntax. They don't explain how a program works generally.

As I have written in another thread I don't want to have webapps like htdig, phpsysinfo and phpmyadmin installed more than once. And I want to know how and where to configure those webapps and I don't have time to read and think about the meaning of the webapp-config manpage.

And it takes much more time to learn such a useless webapp-config than just copying the (only once) installed webapps into different directories if someone needs it.

Maybe there could be some cases in which webapp-config could be useful but for me and for many other people as it can be read in the forum it's annoying. So this webapp-config MUST become OPTIONAL! Maybe it could be done with a new useflag. But the default setting of this use flag should be turned off.

So how do I get rid of webapp-config?

@Carlo:
This one question is answered but not with an acceptable answer. ;-)

And, please, read my hole posting. Then you will find some more problems I and some more people have with webapp-config.

BTW, if the developers create such a tool and compel the people using it they first should write a reasonable documentation which explains in details what it is for, how it works and how it is used.

Carlo · Developer Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3356

cyberpatrol · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:45 pm Post subject:

frilled · Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:27 pm Post subject:

Loki|muh · n00b Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 54

it's like using debian :/

Dr_b_ · n00b Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 33

I too Loathe webapp-config, i can't figure out how to disable it, with -vhost useflags doing nothing.

My web "apps" dont get installed in my webdir, they get put somewhere else, and im not running virtual hosts, so i really really do not understand why it wouldnt place my apps in the www dir. So what you all are saying, carlo, is that i have to install the application twice. Once with emerge, then again, with this byzantine webapp-config "tool" which is supposed to make things easier.

I have a better idea, how about I just 1) install them manually, thus defeating the excellent package manager portage, or 2) use a distro that doesn't force you to use webapp-config.

This is Tyranny, and the people will revolt.

frilled · Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:30 pm Post subject:

Dr_b_ · n00b Joined: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 33

frilled · Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:53 pm Post subject:

LOL.

Slightly off boundaries

but there is some truth in what you say. I urge the developers to rethink how webapp-config can be made optional.
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cyberpatrol · Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:37 pm Post subject:

This could be done very easily.

Just create a new USE flag named webapp, webappconf or something like that. If this USE flag is set then webapps are installed with webapp-config as it is done at the moment. If this USE flag is not set then webapps are just installed once in a predefined directory (e.g. /var/www/localhost by default) as it was done before webapp-config.

Maybe for the second case (if this USE flag is not set) there could be made an option to define the installation directory for webapps. Maybe through an environment variable or a config file or something like that.

frilled · Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:06 pm Post subject:

Agreed.
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Carlo · Developer Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3356

cyberpatrol · Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:06 am Post subject:

Then this is a very good time for the webapp developers to change this.

Genone · Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:20 am Post subject: