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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:06 am    Post subject: Boot problems Reply with quote

I have a triple drive system, and I just installed Gentoo (made it all the way through GRUB installation) but it is not booting at all. I barely got XP booting again by moving the open parenthesis to the correct spot in rootnoverify command, so I can at least get on the net and ask questions here.

At any rate, the primary drive /dev/hda is a 120 GB, which is partitioned as follows:

35 (hda1) = XP, 45 (hda2) = FAT32, where I store my music.

Now, there was an extended partition created (obviously) to make the original Music partition, and I just sized it down, and then used the resulting 40 GB free space for installing Gentoo.

However, it will not boot after I made my grub.conf as follows:

Code:
default 0
timeout 5
splashimage=(hd0,5)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo Linux 2.6.8-Gentoo-r3
root (hd0,5)
kernel /kernel-2.6.8-Gentoo-r3 root=/dev/hda6

title=Windows XP SP1
rootnoverify (hd0,5)
makeactive
chainloader +1


So Winders boots and Gentoo does not.

Any ideas?


Also, the GRUB boot screen is black and white with vertical white lines extending from the top of the screen to the bottom. Any ideas on that as well? I can barely make out what is going on and see what it says but I know that it gives me an error - I will try to boot it again to get the error message as specified, as well as a fdisk partition listing to show that .boot is on hda6, swap is /hda7 and root is /hda8.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your Windows boot partition is the same as your Gentoo boot partition.
Not to put too fine a point on it - that is not possible.

Run
Code:
grub

and then type
Code:
> root (hd0,

and press TAB; that will give you a list of all partitions it thinks it can boot from.
One of these will be Gentoo, the other is Windows.

By the way, Windows won't boot from this grub.conf either, unless you managed to install it on an extended partition - which is also impossible.

But do come back, we'll get you through it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops - windows is (hd0,0)

my error

Next time maybe I should get some sleep prior to typing this all out....

At any rate, I seems like it is starting to boot, and then it hangs, but the screen is completely illegible due ti the black and white with the white line. Looks like some sort of bastardized ASCII on crack, to tell you the truth.

The XP boots fine (I wrote the original thread from XP).
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like a kernel config error more than anything. Try disabling features that aren't strictly necessary from your kernel (ACPI, framebuffer, bootsplash etc) and see if that helps.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, framebuffer was already disabled, and I used pretty much the same config as when I replaced the vanilla fedora 2.6 core with the Linux militia kernel ck5.

There were some differences, obviously, but for the most part (I am doing it from memory) I did it the same way.

I am recompiling it with framebuffer now - I think that might affect the display so that I can at least read wth the screen says so I can troubleshoot the boot process.

Also, why is there not a stage 1 for Pentium 4 builds? j/c.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for the dp - I figured out a lot of my problems, mostly with the grub config (I copied the text from my older Fedora install this time after having a brainstorm and creating a tmp dir in /mnt and mounting the Fedora boot partition) as well as not enabling XFS filesystem in my kernel (duh!)

But I am receiving an error now that I am not sure - at least it is readable:

Code:
           pleas retry dxs_support=1 or dxs_support=4 option
           and please report if it works on your machine.
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:11.5[C] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device address 2
usb 1-2:1.0: USB hub found
usb 1-2:1.0: 4 ports detected
ALSA device list:
     #0: MPU-401 UART at 0x330, IRQ 10, bus id MIDI
     #1: VIA 8233 at 0xe00, irq 11
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP: routing cache hash table of 8192 buckets, 64Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 262144 bind 65535)
ip_conntrack version 2.1 (6143 buckets, 49144 max) - 296 bytes per conntrack
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team
ipt_recent v0.3.1: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>.  http://snowman.net/projects/ipt_recent/
arp_tables: (C) 2002 David S. Miller
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 17
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S5)
VFS: Cannot open root device "hda8" or unknown-block(3,8)
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,8)
 <7>uhci_hcd 0000:00:11.3: suspend_hc


obviously it is telling me that it cannot load the root partition off hda8 - but why?

I have a working Fedora Core install that I can boot into and mount the devices that I need to to take a look (and thus cp and paste the contents easily) now so let me know where I need to go next.

I will append the grub.conf to this message as soon as I reboot the DT - I left it on and typed this in to my laptop so I could copy the message on the screen.

here is the grub.conf (mounted the boot drive to a tmp folder in /mnt under Fedora and copied it ;-0)

Code:
# Original grub.conf copied from /dev/hdc1 (/mnt/boot/grub/grub.conf)
# to conform with older Fedora Core 2 installation by john galt
# Begin Original grub.conf
#
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#          root (hd2,0)
#          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hdc2
#          initrd /initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/hda
#
# End original grub.conf
default=0
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd2,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title Gentoo Linux 2.6.8-Gentoo-r3
   root (hd0,5)
   kernel /kernel-2.6.8-gentoo-r3 root=/dev/hda8
title Fedora Core 2 (www.linux-militia.net) (2.6.8.1-ck5)
        root (hd2,0)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-ck5 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
        initrd /initrd-2.6.8.1-ck5.img
title Fedora Core 2 (2.6.8-1.521)
        root (hd2,0)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.521 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
        initrd /initrd-2.6.8-1.521.img
title Fedora Core 2 (2.6.7-1.494.2.2)
        root (hd2,0)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.7-1.494.2.2 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
        initrd /initrd-2.6.7-1.494.2.2.img
title Fedora Core 2 (2.6.5-1.358)
        root (hd2,0)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.358 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
        initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.358.img
title Windows XP SP1
        rootnoverify (hd0,0)
   makeactive
        chainloader +1

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post the "fdisk -l" outputs of all 3 drives, your /etc/fstab from gentoo, and if you changed something you're actual grub.conf.

I don't see any error right now, but I pretty tired and my thinking ability isn't top anymore, so post it and I look at it tomorrow morning. (Damn only 6h to go until start of the new day)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lmfao - There isn't a fdisk in Fedora, I just tried it as root and it says
Code:
bash: fdisk: command not found


Guess that means I have to boot off the liveCD again - will take me a while....

I'll post it here when I get there.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't have to fdisk, anything is ok cfdisk,parted....
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

let me see what part manager is has built in - Still relatively new to the Linux world and I don't know all the different programs...

bbiab

OK, the Fedora configuration makes some sort of reference to parted, and yet I cannot get it to run from a root prompt.

AM I missing something? or do I need to mount a CD ROM and run it off the CD ROM?

Heck, I'll try that anyway....

Nope- no native parted 'program' anywhere on either the love-livecd2 nor the Fedora Core rescue CD. I hate to have to reboot with one of the CDs - I wonder if there is a package for partition editing on the fly that I can use - let me go search some more....

OK, so I downloaded the latest parted (1.6.14) and installed, and here is the info:

Code:
Disk geometry for /dev/hda: 0.000-114473.460 megabytes
Disk label type: msdos
Minor    Start       End     Type      Filesystem  Flags
1          0.031  36922.829  primary   ntfs        boot
2      36922.830 114470.969  extended              lba
5      36922.860  86922.004  logical   fat32
6      86922.035  86961.225  logical   ext2        boot
7      86961.256  87455.412  logical   linux-swap
8      87455.443 114470.969  logical   ext3

(parted) print
Disk geometry for /dev/hdb: 0.000-19092.937 megabytes
Disk label type: msdos
Minor    Start       End     Type      Filesystem  Flags
1          0.031  19092.937  primary   ntfs        boot

(parted) print
Disk geometry for /dev/hdc: 0.000-19470.937 megabytes
Disk label type: msdos
Minor    Start       End     Type      Filesystem  Flags
1          0.031     99.914  primary   ext3        boot
2         99.914  17935.312  primary   ext3
3      17935.312  19470.937  primary   linux-swap


# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/fstab,v 1.14 2003/10/13 20:03:38 azarah Exp $
#
# noatime turns off atimes for increased performance (atimes normally aren't
# needed; notail increases performance of ReiserFS (at the expense of storage
# efficiency).  It's safe to drop the noatime options if you want and to
# switch between notail and tail freely.

# <fs>                  <mountpoint>    <type>          <opts>                  <dump/pass>

# NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
/dev/hda6               /boot           ext2            noauto,noatime          1 2
/dev/hda8               /               xfs             noatime                 0 1
/dev/hda7               none            swap            sw                      0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0      /mnt/cdrom      auto            noauto,user,ro          0 0
/dev/fd0                /mnt/floppy     auto            noauto,user                     0 0

# NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
none                    /proc           proc            defaults                0 0

# glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
# POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
# (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will
#  use almost no memory if not populated with files)
# Adding the following line to /etc/fstab should take care of this:

none                    /dev/shm        tmpfs           defaults                0 0
none                    /proc/bus/usb   usbfs           defaults                0 0


The grub.conf is as is right now (as I posted earlier)
I know that I can use a different grub image (namely the one that got installed with the gentoo install)l, but I had no idea why it was not booting with a boot image as opposed to a black and white screen with lines on it, so I used the default one from Fedora, which seems to work for now. If needed, I can change it later.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar problem and have filed a bug report 2 months ago and the problem is still not fixed yet.

See

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56892
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, every time O go to a bug report like that I see the entry form to fill in information about the bug - I don't see where I can look at details re; the bug anywhere. Therefore, I am not sure if it applies here or not.

Also, as an aside - I ma in Fedora Core right now and I have both the Gentoo boot partition mounted as well as the Gentoo root partition.

So it is some weird as hell error that is causing this to happen - and yes, this time around I *did* enable XFS file system in the kernel.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
8 87455.443 114470.969 logical ext3

If parted does read your partitions right /dev/hda8 (root) is an ext3 formated device, but in your fstab you specify a xfs device.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*grumble* I had everything written down and was sure that I had formatted it XFS, but I wil ltry it the other way.

Thanks for spotting that for me...

More later
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I adjusted my fstab accordingly, and still am geting the exact same problem as before.

my grub.conf:

Code:

# Original grub.conf copied from /dev/hdc1 (/mnt/boot/grub/grub.conf)
# to conform with older Fedora Core 2 installation by john galt
# Begin Original grub.conf
#
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#          root (hd2,0)
#          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hdc2
#          initrd /initrd-version.img
#boot=/dev/hda
#
# End original grub.conf
default=0
timeout=5
splashimage=(hd0,5)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title Gentoo Linux 2.6.8-Gentoo-r3
        root (hd0,5)
        kernel /kernel-2.6.8-gentoo-r3 root=/dev/hda8
title Fedora Core 2 (www.linux-militia.net) (2.6.8.1-ck5)
        root (hd2,0)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-ck5 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
        initrd /initrd-2.6.8.1-ck5.img
title Fedora Core 2 (2.6.8-1.521)
        root (hd2,0)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.8-1.521 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
        initrd /initrd-2.6.8-1.521.img
title Fedora Core 2 (2.6.7-1.494.2.2)
        root (hd2,0)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.7-1.494.2.2 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
        initrd /initrd-2.6.7-1.494.2.2.img
title Fedora Core 2 (2.6.5-1.358)
        root (hd2,0)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1.358 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet
        initrd /initrd-2.6.5-1.358.img
title Windows XP SP1
        rootnoverify (hd0,0)
        makeactive
        chainloader +1



and my fstab

Code:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/fstab,v 1.14 2003/10/13 20:03:38 azarah Exp $
#
# noatime turns off atimes for increased performance (atimes normally aren't
# needed; notail increases performance of ReiserFS (at the expense of storage
# efficiency).  It's safe to drop the noatime options if you want and to
# switch between notail and tail freely.

# <fs>                  <mountpoint>    <type>          <opts>                  <dump/pass>

# NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
/dev/hda6               /boot           ext2            noauto,noatime          1 2
/dev/hda8               /               ext3            noatime                 0 1
/dev/hda7               none            swap            sw                      0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0      /mnt/cdrom      auto            noauto,user,ro          0 0
/dev/fd0                /mnt/floppy     auto            noauto,user             0 0

# NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
none                    /proc           proc            defaults                0 0

# glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
# POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
# (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will
#  use almost no memory if not populated with files)
# Adding the following line to /etc/fstab should take care of this:

none                    /dev/shm        tmpfs           defaults                0 0
none                    /proc/bus/usb   usbfs           defaults                0 0
/dev/hda1               /mnt/XP         ntfs            ro,umask=0222           0 0
/dev/hdb1               /mnt/downloads  ntfs            ro,umask=0222           0 0
/dev/hda5               /mnt/music      auto            defaults                0 0
/dev/sda                /mnt/usb_flash  auto            defaults                0 0


and here is the error message again:


Code:
           pleas retry dxs_support=1 or dxs_support=4 option
           and please report if it works on your machine.
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:11.5[C] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device address 2
usb 1-2:1.0: USB hub found
usb 1-2:1.0: 4 ports detected
ALSA device list:
     #0: MPU-401 UART at 0x330, IRQ 10, bus id MIDI
     #1: VIA 8233 at 0xe00, irq 11
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP: routing cache hash table of 8192 buckets, 64Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 262144 bind 65535)
ip_conntrack version 2.1 (6143 buckets, 49144 max) - 296 bytes per conntrack
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team
ipt_recent v0.3.1: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>.  http://snowman.net/projects/ipt_recent/
arp_tables: (C) 2002 David S. Miller
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 17
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S5)
VFS: Cannot open root device "hda8" or unknown-block(3,8)
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,8)
 <7>uhci_hcd 0000:00:11.3: suspend_hc

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's weird - my dmesg says it is adding NET protocol family 16 - and yours adds 1, 2, and 17.
Whatever.

Can you boot it with the LiveCD from the HD ?

Code:
gentoo root=/dev/hda8


It should just work, or else you can try any LiveCD you may have (que Knoppix - it really is a requirement for anybody doing Linux!)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ummm, a bit more there please. I a using the love-livecd2 for now (though DaveMCS has offered to let me downlaod the rebuilt 2004.2 live cd) but when it boots am I to stop the boot process and feed that statement to the arguments to boot with at the
Code:
boot:
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop the boot process?
Any LiveCD should stop at the boot: prompt and allow you to type in what you want to do.
If that CD you mention does not then you may assume it is not an official Gentoo LiveCD.

EDIT: Ah I see what you mean.
No, that is not the boot process - or rather, it is, but it is the boot loader, which has little to do with Gentoo.
It just loads it.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yah, my terminology was skewed - I'm off to try your suggestion and see what happens - I have a bad feeling though that I have screwed something in my kernel config lol

not surprising since I am a rather n00b - but logically everything seems to be OK now...

bbl when I have an answer.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, the Love-liveCD2 was able to get me to a login prompt, but as it is kernel 2.6.7 and not the 2.6.8 that I used with Gentoo, it is having problems.

The original 2004.2 would not boot after 4 attempts at burning. but I now have DaveMCS's rebuilt boot CD - I am going to burn that and see if it will let me boot or not.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rebuilt minimal boot CD from DaveMCS works like a charm.

I was able to boot to my HD Gentoo installation, but it had a few problems, mainly b/c the dir structure was not there from my Fedora core in /mnt (I had to ad XP, downloads, music and usb_flash) but I got a login prompt and was able to log in.

Should I proceed with the rest of the handbook now, or what? I have a feeling this means that, more than likely, I need to re-compile my kernel, eh?

BTW, I fired up the laptop so I can work on the DT and still post questions and follow the directions I am given, if any more need to be given.

Also, will posting my .config for my kernel here help?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess this means I start from scratch. :evil:

botting with smp (according to the handbook I should use smp if I want to use kernel 2.6) has locked up on me.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bootstrapped this time - I had one error but reading some other people's problems I abruptly realized what my prob was - going to fix it now and see what happens.

(for th record, I forgot to make the boot partition bootable)
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but it still will not boot - it does not recognize the root partition at all.

Now I am a at loss - I will have to boot back into Gentoo to get the error message, unless there is a log of the boot so that I can copy it quickly and paste it here?

I also have access to the grub.conf and fstab as I have already mounted the Gentoo partitions under Fedora.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best way for us to understand what partions you are using. You could boot from a live CD, mount the your partions => /mnt/gentoo and /mnt/gentoo/boot ( and /proc ) and then cat /proc/mounts and paste here what you have. This could make us understand what partions you are using.


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