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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: How Much RAM for a Linux Desktop? Reply with quote

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OK so im looking at getting some new hardware and i have already decided on the processor (2600+ Mobile) and the motherboard (Shuttle AN35N-Ultra), but what im not sure about it how much memory i should get, 512mb or 1gig

this computer would be a desktop and i run my share of servers, so what would everyone suggest, it will be running dual channel if that weighs on your suggestions


dude, if this is a desktop and not a laptop, why get a mobile processor? Also, I agree, get as much RAM as you can afford...


Because, the mobile processors really are just excellent desktop processors that are able to be stable with less voltage at their default clockrate (and therefore at any clockrate) so there is a LOT more space for oc'ing. Usually the Mobile 2400+ bartons etc clock to about 2600MHz or alike with a light H20 cooling while regular 2500+ go only to... 2400 or something and need more voltage -> more heat to dispose of.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 3 Linux boxes at home: The main box (Duron 1.3, desktop SUSE 9.1) is a full-blown Linux system which I use to do from 3D rendering (Blender) to text editing and some little programming (this box does also NATting for the others), I have 768MB DDR 333 on this one.

My wife's SUSE 9.0 box is a Pentium III 700 with an older motherborad which has a 512MB but only recognices ~300MB.

And the last one is my brand new Stage1 optimized Amilo K 7600 Laptop, which
uses 256MB right now, but I have already ordered an extra 512MB SODIMM.

Both, my wife's box and the laptop run quite smoothly, the desktop because she only uses it for email and web surfing.

On the laptop using OpenOffice I can sometimes notices "jumps": The system freezes for seconds and the cursor jumps back to the last place where it was. This was using SUSE 9.1...

With my brand new Stage1 Gentoo 2004.2 install I have already noticed a real improvement in compilation speed compared to a not optimized kernel, no 'jumps' at all. so I would say that you would prolly be all right with 256MB and state-of-the-art CPU and MB.

But remember:

RAM is like sex and money, the more the better.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so with my running fluxbox or fvwm, and a bunch of gnome apps, all on top of a nitro kernel with some servers, would i need more than 512?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im jumping on the 1gb bandwagon ;)

also is the 2600+ a barton core? i thought it was the 2500+,2800+ and 3200+ were carton cores. my friend got a 2500+ mobile and it clocks to 2.4ghz very easily, even beats another mates 3.0ghz p4 with ht :D
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say 512mb should be enough. I'm running xorg and fluxbox on a laptop with an amd 1400+ and 384mb ram (16mb used by gfx). Works fine. But if you're going with a dual channel setup, I would say getting 2x256 mb is a waste of ram slots. And afaik dual channel doesnt give that much of an improvement... correct me if I'm wrong :?

I would give you some numbers from my main computer running fluxbox with 512mb too, but right now I seem to have a memory leak or something :(

btw, Im new so go easy on me :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have KDE + Firefox + OpenOffice running on 512MB and don't feel like I'm scarce on memory. Just for kicks, I fired up Gimp in addition to the above programs and applied some filters to my 3-4 meg digicam files, but I still don't notice any swapping action.

So I'd say, unless you plan to do something extremely memory intensive such as video editing or plasma physics simulations, 512MB is the right amount these days.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goulash wrote:
im jumping on the 1gb bandwagon ;)

also is the 2600+ a barton core? i thought it was the 2500+,2800+ and 3200+ were carton cores. my friend got a 2500+ mobile and it clocks to 2.4ghz very easily, even beats another mates 3.0ghz p4 with ht :D


the standard 2600+ comes in both tbred and barton cores, the mobile which im getting is a barton core
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:56 am    Post subject: How Much Ram? Reply with quote

I know I have a Gig of RAM and will be upping it to 2 GB(4 x 512 PC3200) of Ram pretty quick just to keep things running real smooth ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from all this im thinking that i will have no need for anything over 512, even with all of the things i will be running

does anyone disagree with this?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrApples wrote:
from all this im thinking that i will have no need for anything over 512, even with all of the things i will be running

does anyone disagree with this?

I totally agree. FYI, I recently checked my memory usage in more detail. The numbers are very rough (rounded to 5MB):
    X.org + KDE core system, right after boot: 85MB
    Firefox: 20MB
    OpenOffice: 25MB
    Gimp (with pics loaded): 50MB
I wouldn't know what to do to fill up my 512MB (except, maybe, run Windows XP in a Virtual Machine, but why would I want to do that :wink: )
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