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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:11 am    Post subject: why is it takin so long? Reply with quote

well it seems i have putten up for this long enough...im running gnome-light and it seems (even with other window managers) to take about 4 or 5 seconds for something to come up when i select it...this is games, small text files, anything...after i click on it it takes alittle while to come up...now do i have run away memory or something? i have like a gig a ddr ram and a 1.4 amd...now im not too picky on speed but this is kind of getting old...anybody have any ideas?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try to cache your fonts to c if that helps
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok well thanks for the advice...id would be nice if i kew how to do it..could u explain im kind of a linux nub :oops:
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
fc-cache

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Other Things Gentoo.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what does
Code:
hdparm /dev/hdx
say?

is dma turned on? do you use prelinking? have you ever tried xfce4?

cheers, loki99
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
# hdparm /dev/hdb1

/dev/hdb1:
 multcount    = 16 (on)
 IO_support   =  1 (32-bit)
 unmaskirq    =  1 (on)
 using_dma    =  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 readonly     =  0 (off)
 readahead    = 256 (on)
 geometry     = 65535/16/63, sectors = 80262, start = 63

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s dma turned on? do you use prelinking?

dont know how to check those
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have you ever tried xfce4?

yes and i dont like it...stil the same thing
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try using Openbox instead. GNOME and XFCE are overkill, IMHO.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please post your /etc/hosts file, you might have forgotten to add your computername to it.. It will cause problems with applications startup time in gnome and kde (because they try to get an ip with your computername, but can't find it)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for the fc-cache, be superuser (su) and write fc-cache -f
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell-Razor wrote:

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s dma turned on? do you use prelinking?

dont know how to check those

dma is turned as your hdparm states.

about prelinking there´s a guide:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/prelink-howto.xml

lets you prelink your libs to the specific app so it starts faster. but it seems that you have something wrong. my system (amd1800+,768mb,ati9600) just runs fine, feels snappy and openoffice takes less than 10 sec to start.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok my hosts is: (i dont htink this is rite but ok);
Code:
# /etc/hosts:  This file describes a number of hostname-to-address
#              mappings for the TCP/IP subsystem.  It is mostly
#              used at boot time, when no name servers are running.
#              On small systems, this file can be used instead of a
#              "named" name server.  Just add the names, addresses
#              and any aliases to this file...
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/hosts,v 1.8 2003/08/04 20:12:25 azarah Exp $
#

127.0.0.1   localhost
# IPV6 versions of localhost and co
::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
ff02::3 ip6-allhosts



...how do i add myself?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell-Razor wrote:
ok my hosts is: (i dont htink this is rite but ok);
Code:
<snip>



...how do i add myself?


Add whatever the output of "hostname" is to /etc/hosts after "localhost".
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

u can add your hostname & domainname to your /etc/hosts.
For example,
127.0.0.1 testserver.example.com testserver localhost
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok well ive done all of this shit...ive even moved to fluxbox...and still it takes a long ass time for stuff to load...anybody else got ideas?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

do a hdparm -Tt /dev/(your hardisk device) & post your result
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hdparm -Tt /dev/hdb1

/dev/hdb1:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 632 MB in 2.01 seconds = 314.32 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 38 MB in 1.74 seconds = 21.89 MB/sec
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what I get.

Code:
root, root/ # hdparm -Tt /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   3004 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1499.98 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  152 MB in  3.02 seconds =  50.26 MB/sec


As you can see, your cache is practically creeping and your HDD isnt' that fast either. I'm not sure if this can account for your machines perceived slowness or not. You should check your kernel settings if you selected the correct IDE drivers for your system.

"4-5 seconds" doesn't sound very slow to me either. I.e the first time I start gedit it takes about 2-3 seconds on my system (I'm not using prelink), but the next time it's a lot faster (<1s). If that takes 3-5 seconds on your system I guess that's an ok value considering your HDD performance.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell-Razor wrote:
hdparm -Tt /dev/hdb1

/dev/hdb1:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 632 MB in 2.01 seconds = 314.32 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 38 MB in 1.74 seconds = 21.89 MB/sec


think u shld take a look at configuring your harddisk parameter, Your harddisk performamce a bit slow.
Mine look something like this

Code:
 hdparm -Tt /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   1024 MB in  2.01 seconds = 510.04 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  172 MB in  3.01 seconds =  57.23 MB/sec

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know that doesnt seem rite....how do i check those and fix them? ill be askin around in about an hour in the gentoo channel to see if anybody knows...im at school rite now so i cant really do anything now
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

search the forum on harddisk performace or tuning. Got some stuff on tuning the harddisk
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok ive gotten some results and stuff from other places and such...ive tried the following
hdparm -X udma5 /dev/hdb

but when i do hd -Tt /dev/hdb it still displays as udma 2....
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell-Razor wrote:
ok ive gotten some results and stuff from other places and such...ive tried the following
hdparm -X udma5 /dev/hdb

but when i do hd -Tt /dev/hdb it still displays as udma 2....


can your harddisk support udma5? Or hav u enable the support under the bios section?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its only enable and disable....its on enable so i dont know what else i can do...and it says that it supports udma5
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

radonsg wrote:
Hell-Razor wrote:
hdparm -Tt /dev/hdb1

/dev/hdb1:
Timing buffer-cache reads: 632 MB in 2.01 seconds = 314.32 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 38 MB in 1.74 seconds = 21.89 MB/sec


think u shld take a look at configuring your harddisk parameter, Your harddisk performamce a bit slow.
Mine look something like this

Code:
 hdparm -Tt /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   1024 MB in  2.01 seconds = 510.04 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  172 MB in  3.01 seconds =  57.23 MB/sec


just a question, what do these numbers mean? should they be high or low?

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