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nickeh
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| jarealist wrote: | | I was having the same "really slow" loading problems experienced by others here using 6.8.0-r1, but that seems to be fixed with the latest masked release (6.8.0-r2). Now applications (X. KDE, etc) load as fast or faster then the 6.7.0-r2 release. I'm using the latest nvidia kernel release. Great job! |
Same here! Now windows pop up as fast as they should! |
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Warp4
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Wow,
what a realase > xorg-x11-6.8.0-r2
really great job 
My Firefox fonts looks really nice now > also great 
Thanks
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irondog
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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What do all that USE flags mean?
bitmap-fonts
cjk
dlloader
dmx
glx
insecure-drivers
truetype-fonts
type1-fonts
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rfujimoto
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Try this command to find out what all those things mean:
`grep 'bitmap-fonts' /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc`
...even better would be to write a script to do that for you or use one of those app-gentoo things like maybe ufed (I think). |
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Webbster
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:17 pm Post subject: xterm hack |
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Is anyone successfully using Keith Packard's xterm hack for opaque text on a transparent background? Others have talked about it in the original xorg-6.8 thread, but I can't seem to figure out how to use the thing....
The tarball is available here for anyone who wants to try it: http://freedesktop.org/~keithp/xterm-trans.tar.gz
The built binaries in the tarball depend on libexpat.so.1 (which I dont have, and symlinking doesn't work). When I rebuild it, it runs with a grey background and transset makes the text transparent. I can't find any documentation for the transparency effect, does anyone else have any suggestions?
Note: It shouldn't make a difference, but this is on amd64. |
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rikell42
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Joined: 25 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 1:09 am Post subject: super slow |
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hey my system is
2600xp+
1G ram
256Mb video geforefx 5700le
I emerged xorg 6.8.0-r1 and got it up and running smothly. but when I start
xcompmgr my system screaches to a halt. my proccesor sensor says it is up to 50 to 100 % when the system is just idle. Everything is super slow. I do get the nice effects. transparancy and showdows and such but the drain on my system is enomous
any idea why this is?
I would think my system would be fast enought to handdle a little eye candy. |
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Lord_Firlionel
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:26 am Post subject: |
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I see that xorg-x11-6.8.0-r1 has been marked stable on x86.. Do I still need to emerge xcompmgr and transset seperately to get those interesting results or have them be implemented into the package already?
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NME
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| Lord_Firlionel wrote: | | I see that xorg-x11-6.8.0-r1 has been marked stable on x86.. Do I still need to emerge xcompmgr and transset seperately to get those interesting results or have them be implemented into the package already? |
they need to be installed separately and also the composite extension is NOT enabled per default in the default config. All the composite/render stuff is still considered to be very very alpha!
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Raistlin
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:10 am Post subject: |
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| Lord_Firlionel wrote: | | I see that xorg-x11-6.8.0-r1 has been marked stable on x86.. Do I still need to emerge xcompmgr and transset seperately to get those interesting results or have them be implemented into the package already? |
strange - packages.gentoo.org shows xorg-6.8.0-rX being unstable on the x86 architecture...
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Matteo Azzali
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| No, 6.8.0r1 is marked stable even there now, but.....Does someone found a way to get ati cards OpenGL working under 6.8.0 using ATI-Drivers? |
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jimmsta
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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I knew I should have checked the forums before emerging 6.8.0 ... now I can't get the ati-drivers to work... ugh... let alone the fact that my symbolic link "startx" is b0rked.... ugh
I hope someone figures out how to fix the ati-drivers... if anyone wants my xf86config, which worked fine with 6.7.0, I'll post it asap... |
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chance2105
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I just emerged to xorg 6.8.0-r1, as per a stable upgrade on x86. I'm having serious issues with programs taking _forever in a day_ to start. The system shows 100% cpu usage until the programs starts.
Once the programs start, the windows are very snappy, but what gives with the slow startup times?
EDIT: running fc-cache as root fixed his problem up nicely. Well done, xorg guys.  |
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Matteo Azzali
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| jimmsta wrote: | | I hope someone figures out how to fix the ati-drivers... if anyone wants my xf86config, which worked fine with 6.7.0, I'll post it asap... |
I hope too....... unmerging and then re-emerging ati-drivers caused the re-emersion of xorg 6.7.0r2, but when I tried to startx I got a
"missing xlibs.xxx.so" or some similar files, the re-emersion of 6.7 was
buggy.......
My solution was to switch to kernel drivers without binaries (ati-drivers)
but this buggy too cause some mmrr problem (X working but error msg on exit, and I think u can't do it with 9000+ cards, I have a 9100 that is an 8500
in truth...)
I'm just in doubt, should I spam Ati-support mail or just upgrade to a
GEFORCE card? I'll just post to Ati waiting for 6600 GT AGP selling in
my country, then if no drivers...... bye bye Ati.  |
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MaxDamage
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I installed the 6.8.0 ebuild and everything worked with my ATI Radeon 9600. The new extensions weren't there, but I thought "well, they ripped them off, so ATI users can switch". Then I rebooted  I hadn't unloaded the libraries so what was working was the 6.7.0 one. After reboot the console got corrupted, and Gnome didn't want to start.
Thanx God quickpkg is here to make things easier I edited my packages.mask file and sit to wait for ATI supporting the new X.org. I wish it takes no longer...
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Lord_Firlionel
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| Matteo Azzali wrote: | | No, 6.8.0r1 is marked stable even there now, but.....Does someone found a way to get ati cards OpenGL working under 6.8.0 using ATI-Drivers? |
Jepp, same problem here. There hasn't been any communication between Xorg and ATI, as far as I can see. They are releasing new drivers at last and now they are not working with the new _stable_ xorg-release.
I downgraded back to xorg-x11-6.7.0-r2...
I hope that will be fixed soon.. I'm just starting glxgears and my Xserver is restarting at once when using the new stable release.. ^^
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Matteo Azzali
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:06 am Post subject: |
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LOL, I just tried out xorg 6.7 and 6.8 WIthout ati-drivers......
guess what surprise?????
glxgears WITH ati-drivers:
about 1500 frames/sec
glxgears WITHOUT ati-drivers:
about 1900 frames/sec (on both 6.7 and 6.8 Xorg)
(results of athlon-xp 2600 and ATI Sapphire 9100)
Omg!!!!! What the Hell is Ati doin with those drivers????????!? |
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Kern3lP4nic
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| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Matteo Azzali wrote: | LOL, I just tried out xorg 6.7 and 6.8 WIthout ati-drivers......
guess what surprise?????
glxgears WITH ati-drivers:
about 1500 frames/sec
glxgears WITHOUT ati-drivers:
about 1900 frames/sec (on both 6.7 and 6.8 Xorg)
(results of athlon-xp 2600 and ATI Sapphire 9100)
Omg!!!!! What the Hell is Ati doin with those drivers????????!? |
yeah, no suprise... ATI drivers sucks and everybody knows that already. If you can, stick with the DRI project and do not wonder about installing ATI for a looong time... |
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MaxDamage
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The only problem is...
| Code: | | (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering not yet supported on Radeon 9500/9700 and newer cards |
hardware acceleration wont be accesible in opengl. Celestia runs at 2 frames per second... well, thats better than what I got with the binary drivers: crashing on load. 
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wdreinhart
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If I have composite enabled in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf, exiting any full-screen openGL game (or at least ut2k4, neverball, gltron, and doom3) causes X to crash. With composite disabled those games work normally. Anyone else seen (and soved) a problem like this?
(edit)There's no useful information in either the X logs or console output from the game.
My setup:
geforce fx5600
kernel 2.6.8-ck4
nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx 6111
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snow16
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:19 am Post subject: Intel i810 & 6.8.0-r1 |
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I upgraded to 6.8.0-r1 and now when i startx, the screen either goes black or has a bunch of horizontal lines across it. The gnome splash is invisible except for the loading icons. When gnome is finally loaded everything looks fine until I start clicking on apps or menus. Everything is completely invisible until I scroll over it and even then only the options become visible.
I tried downgrading back to 6.7.0-r2 but the problem continues. Now gnome is unusuable. Help please. |
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Lord_Firlionel
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| MaxDamage wrote: | The only problem is...
| Code: | | (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering not yet supported on Radeon 9500/9700 and newer cards |
hardware acceleration wont be accesible in opengl. Celestia runs at 2 frames per second... well, thats better than what I got with the binary drivers: crashing on load. |
Hmmm... I'm using an ATI Radeon 9000 Atlantis.. Is direct rendering supported then?
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Matteo Azzali
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:19 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, in-kernel-dri supports 9000, 9100, and maybe 9200 but not 9500+ cards |
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Ijo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 9:52 am Post subject: |
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I upgraded to xorg 6.8.0-r1 + ati-drivers 3.14.1 yesterday and got hitted by the problem mention in this thread. I understood that the solution is to go back to xorg 6.7 till ATI release new drivers.
Can anyone explain me how to go back to xorg 6.7. I tried the following, but don't know if that's the correct way of doing it (I'm getting a blocker).
# emerge -pv =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.7.0-r2
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] x11-base/xfree (from pkg x11-base/xorg-x11-6.7.0-r2)
[ebuild UD] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.7.0-r2 [6.8.0-r1] -3dfx -3dnow -cjk -debug -debug -dlloader -doc -ipv6 +mmx +nls +pam -sdk -sse -static 7,622 kB
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MaxDamage
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| Ijo wrote: | Can anyone explain me how to go back to xorg 6.7. I tried the following, but don't know if that's the correct way of doing it (I'm getting a blocker).
# emerge -pv =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.7.0-r2
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] x11-base/xfree (from pkg x11-base/xorg-x11-6.7.0-r2)
[ebuild UD] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.7.0-r2 [6.8.0-r1] -3dfx -3dnow -cjk -debug -debug -dlloader -doc -ipv6 +mmx +nls +pam -sdk -sse -static 7,622 kB |
It's pretty easy, don't worry. You must first unmerge the 6.8.0 version like this:
| Code: | | emerge -C =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r1 |
and then mark versions newer than 6.7.0-r1 as masked. Create /etc/portage/package.mask if you haven't and do:
| Code: | | echo >=x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r1 >> /etc/portage/package.mask |
Masking like this, portage won't try to update to 6.8.0 anymore.
I don't know if you have the 6.7.0-r2 already installed, as the blocker seems to confirm, but it sounds strange to me. Just try this:
| Code: | | emerge -a =x11-base/xorg-x11-6.7.0-r2 |
and if portage says is going to remerge just say no and you are done. If it says is going to emerge as new package, say yes. And that's all.
If you want to store binary versions of your compiled packages, so you can reinstall previously emerged packages in a snap, without having to recompile the same package again, use quickpkg:
and later emerge from binary:
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Lord_Firlionel
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| Matteo Azzali wrote: | | Yes, in-kernel-dri supports 9000, 9100, and maybe 9200 but not 9500+ cards |
Great, that'd mean that I may upgrade and still play ut2k4 with opengl support. *emerge*
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