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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 12:53 am    Post subject: KDE? Fluxbox? Reply with quote

ok I have emerged KDE, and it works and all.

What is Fluxbox?
I know that it is a windows manager.

But what is a window manager?

Is KDE a window manager?

Do you need kde or gnome to use Fluxbox?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused about window managers, KDE, X11,etc. might help.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Windowmanagers manage your windows ;)

ie borders, buttons etc. and basic desktop functionality (a menu to launch programs)

KDE & Gnome are Desktop Environments. which are a window manager PLUS a ton of applications all mashed to gether to create a seamless desktop. KDE and Gnome are the Only 2 desktop Environments, anything else is a window manager. none of them are nearly as full featured as Gnome or KDE. but thats what alot of people are looking for. Fluxbox happens to be one of the lightest of them all.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok

So in a window manager you decite hvat aplications are installed..

I have been looking for a window manager.
KDE and Gnome has to much junk that I don't need installed.

But most of the Xprograms are they not made for gnome or KDE?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They may requires KDE or Gnome libs to be installed(i think of KOffice), but you can run them in a different window manager
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

with the exception of konqueror from kde3.1 beta2. it keeps crashing on me in waimea, but works fine in KDE... go fig.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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KDE and Gnome are the Only 2 desktop Environments, anything else is a window manager.


What about CDE and XFce?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vann wrote:

What about CDE and XFce?


Never used either. I don't think CDE is available as an ebuild though. but regardless, I guess I stand corrected ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found this in the Fluxbox FAQ...



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Is there KDE support?
Yeah, do ./configure --enable-kde. This makes it so that the KDE tray icons will appear in the slit.


Is there GNOME support?
Yeah, do ./configure --enable-gnome. This enables GNOME hints.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fluxbox is pretty neat and tidy (and small) ...so if you don't like KDE or Gnome try it :)
but be sure to have gtk and qt installed (these are the things other programs -which would otherwise run in KDE and Gnome)
another little and tidy window maneger is iceWM :) ...try it
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm

If I could try them all I would.
But problem is that I don't have free download.

I have to pay pr. mb.


Is there any problems in having multible window managers installed?

KDE, Fluxbox and bla bla bla
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, no problem at all ...they actually work quite fine one next to each other :)

1. you can install gdm or kdm (or even xdm) for loging in in the X and there you can choose every time which WM you'll use for your curent session.
2. you can do it manually and log in from the console and link the xinitrc with a xinitrc.* where "*" stands for the WM you'll use for the next session(s)

and don't worry all those WMs are rather small.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

metalhedd wrote:
with the exception of konqueror from kde3.1 beta2. it keeps crashing on me in waimea, but works fine in KDE... go fig.


Maybe the Kde dir is not in your PATH.
Try "export PATH="/path/to/kde/install/dir":$PATH".

I had the same problem, and this solved it for me.

(But this was only a problem in SuSE, not in Gentoo...)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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no, no problem at all ...they actually work quite fine one next to each other

1. you can install gdm or kdm (or even xdm) for loging in in the X and there you can choose every time which WM you'll use for your curent session.
2. you can do it manually and log in from the console and link the xinitrc with a xinitrc.* where "*" stands for the WM you'll use for the next session(s)

and don't worry all those WMs are rather small.


ok tanks
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sessionID wrote:
metalhedd wrote:
with the exception of konqueror from kde3.1 beta2. it keeps crashing on me in waimea, but works fine in KDE... go fig.


Maybe the Kde dir is not in your PATH.
Try "export PATH="/path/to/kde/install/dir":$PATH".

I had the same problem, and this solved it for me.

(But this was only a problem in SuSE, not in Gentoo...)


No, that's not it.. it starts up, with the default Screen (The info screen) then as soon as I type in a URL and press enter it crashes.
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