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s4kk3
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I like dc-qt and it is in portage. Nice looking gui and all features I need.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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| s4kk3 wrote: | | I like dc-qt and it is in portage. Nice looking gui and all features I need. |
Its called valknut now.
And it's very nice.
The 1 mb/s limit sounds very odd.
you cant download from 100 people and expect to download with full speed. - every connection need some connection speed.
i have a 2.5 mbit connection, and i download with 250 kb/s all the time.
DC++ is bad because you cant download with full speed, that sucks.
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Phase_
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| Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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dc-qt != valknut
dc-qt is based on dctc and valknut is based on dclib.
valknut was known as dcgui-qt.
valknut's gui is evil. It doesn't store column sizes, you don't have tabs for every window, Qt = ugly imo, I've read that some of these things is in the CVS, but I still would prefer a GTK2 based DC++ port 
I have never downloaded below full speed, with DC++, if the user you're downloading from supports it and you don't have other downloads/uploads that's in the way.
DC++ for Linux:
Having some troubles with the "connection lister" it works (though not any progress bar yet), but there's a bug in there that has to be eliminated before I can upload  |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| Phase_ wrote: | dc-qt != valknut
dc-qt is based on dctc and valknut is based on dclib.
valknut was known as dcgui-qt.
valknut's gui is evil. It doesn't store column sizes, you don't have tabs for every window, Qt = ugly imo, I've read that some of these things is in the CVS, but I still would prefer a GTK2 based DC++ port
I have never downloaded below full speed, with DC++, if the user you're downloading from supports it and you don't have other downloads/uploads that's in the way.
DC++ for Linux:
Having some troubles with the "connection lister" it works (though not any progress bar yet), but there's a bug in there that has to be eliminated before I can upload |
Oh, i'm so stupid, i should read the text before answering.
and yeah, valknut could use some functions and improvements.
You must have a 56k modem if you never downloadet below full speed.
most users on the DC network have a very low upload.
it takes time to find a user with decent upload speed and a free slot.
and the speed can change quickly if the uploader have 10 slots open.
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Phase_
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| GentooBox wrote: |
You must have a 56k modem if you never downloadet below full speed.
most users on the DC network have a very low upload.
it takes time to find a user with decent upload speed and a free slot.
and the speed can change quickly if the uploader have 10 slots open. |
Maybe most user have slow upload, but that doesn't having anything to do with the fact that you said that DC++ couldn't provide with fast download/upload?
Are you refering to the DirectConnect-network as DC++?
DC++ (not any other dc-client that I know of) is way faster than ftp in a switched network, so if you have the speed capabilites then you can't blame DC++ on speedloss. Maybe you're right about it's hard to find good users to download from, but there is nothing wrong with DC++. |
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DC++ is the best, fuck the rest 
Multi-source downloading is lame. YOU steal all the free slots! When you download from 50 users at the same time, does somebody else get a change for a downloading? No!
GentooBox, you really shouldn't whine about free slots, if you're using multi-source downloading!
I fucking hate all multi-source leechers! I've never used Valknut with multi-source downloading enabled. Because that's LAME and RUINS the WHOLE DC COMMUNITY!
Multi-source clients should be banned from all of the hubs (Valknut [if it would be possible to see if you're using multi-source downloading] for GNU/Linux, ReverseConnect for Windows...)
I am using only 2 private hubs, and I get always full speed (I have 2 Mbit/s downstream) because there's no users with 100 slots open or users with lame multi-source clients.
I couldn't even thinking of using public DC hubs anymore. About three years ago, when I started using DC, everybody was so friendly and no leechers/fakers or whatsover. But hey, why DC isn't so good anymore? Because of fakers, multi-source leechers and users like that!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Oktane wrote: | DC++ is the best, fuck the rest
Multi-source downloading is lame. YOU steal all the free slots! When you download from 50 users at the same time, does somebody else get a change for a downloading? No!
I fucking hate all multi-source client leechers! I've never used Valknut with multi-source downloading enabled. Because that's LAME and RUINS the WHOLE DC COMMUNITY!
Multi-source clients should be banned from all of the hubs (Valknut for GNU/Linux, ReverseConnect for Windows etc...)
I am using only 2 private hubs, and I get always full speed (I have 2 Mbit/s downstream) because there's no users with 100 slots open or users with lame multi-source clients.
I couldn't even thinking of using public DC hubs anymore. About three years ago, when I started using DC, everybody was so friendly and no leechers or fakers or whatsover. |
But hey, i can download with full speed, i'm done downloading in notime.
and once i'm done downloading, i have that file shared.
that means i can get a file and upload it faster than you.
multi-source downloading is better use of bandwidth that singel-source downloading, and that means faster file distribution.
in a perfect world singel-source downloading would mean slow distribution but fast spread, multi-source would mean fast distribution and fast spread because everyone downloads at a fast speed.
I a downloading community i wouldent put all the pressure on one uploader, i would do load balancing.
EDIT: What about multi-hub search if you want to find a rare file ?
EDIT: yeah, DC is full of sharefakers, and they have a good reason, they want to hide that they are doing something illegal instead of promoting it.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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I'm glad we have valknut, cause I just attended a big lan event again yesterday and today, and the main fileshare protocol used is that of DC.
Here's how i see it:
* cons:
- somewhat buggy with displaying windows inside valknut
- i need to disable like everything i can in the startup flags or valknut will crash when i open the file transfer screen (maybe due to my 64bit setup)
* pro's:
- multi-source downloads (hey, it works on a lan with a lot of free slots)
- low cpu usage (12MB down and 10MB up at 3% cpu, while my frien'ds pc is choking with DC++ at 99% cpu)
plus I prefer QT over GTK ^_^ |
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Phase_
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| jurrie wrote: |
- low cpu usage (12MB down and 10MB up at 3% cpu, while my frien'ds pc is choking with DC++ at 99% cpu)
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High cpuusage isn't DC++ fault. It's the networkcard or hdd.
I have a 3com nic and I have never had problems with high cpuusage, but with cards based on RealTek-chipset, you'll get way higher cpuusage. |
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GentooBox
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| jurrie wrote: | I'm glad we have valknut, cause I just attended a big lan event again yesterday and today, and the main fileshare protocol used is that of DC.
Here's how i see it:
* cons:
- somewhat buggy with displaying windows inside valknut
- i need to disable like everything i can in the startup flags or valknut will crash when i open the file transfer screen (maybe due to my 64bit setup)
* pro's:
- multi-source downloads (hey, it works on a lan with a lot of free slots)
- low cpu usage (12MB down and 10MB up at 3% cpu, while my frien'ds pc is choking with DC++ at 99% cpu)
plus I prefer QT over GTK ^_^ |
I also have a 64bit system, and there is no crashes here.
do you use ~amd64 ? (i do)
I thinking about trying the cvs version of valknut, just to see if there is anything new.
i would like some improvements in the GUI and multiselection in the filetransfers.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| GentooBox wrote: |
I also have a 64bit system, and there is no crashes here.
do you use ~amd64 ? (i do)
I thinking about trying the cvs version of valknut, just to see if there is anything new.
i would like some improvements in the GUI and multiselection in the filetransfers. |
for what it's worth, yes i also use ~amd64. Valknut 0.3.3, non-cvs. I don't exactly know what things i need to disable, but i just used every --disable flag as a last resort and it turned out to work. |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Phase, how's the development going with DC++ for Linux? |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hey,
Not to good, till just a second ago. Just solved that gotdamn bug that's been bugging me for the last 3 days
I'll upload it later tonight, that's a promise |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Glad to hear that you solved it! |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Hey,
Oktane: Thanks!
I've uploaded it now. But I have to say: Beware, some things are new and not so bugtested. But it should work pretty well overall.
Feel free to email me @ <phase at users dot berlios dot de> with any bugs or suggestions. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Yay! I will definately try it out when I get home. I'm @ work now 
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But it should work pretty well overall.
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Sounds promising |
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Phase_
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hey,
Great! Feedback is always welcome!
If you find any bugs: Please add them to our bugtracker @ http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de -> Known bugs. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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I just tried it, it's pretty nice but I found two nasty bugs:
#1: When joining to a private hub, I cannot enter password. It segfaults. This happens on all private hubs.
#2: When removing shared directories, it segfaults. Also, I shared /mnt/directoryhere/ (there are only subdirectories) but it shows up as 0 B. Do I really need to add all subdirectories by hand?
Anyway, this is much better than I expected! Awesome work, I'm sure this will be a killer client when it works flawlessy! 
I don't know if there's a "match queue" function, but it's the best feature of DC++! It's more than a welcome |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, you can't join private hubs yet (no password support).
Yeah, we know of that bug to, the settings dialog itself is quite buggy so.
As of DC++ 0.4034 the DC++-core don't add your files to the share until it's hashed. Therefor it's 0 B in the beginning but it'll increase with time as the files are beeing hashed.
I'm currently adding a hash-dialog where you can see the progress of the hashing etc.
Queue's and such things is at a lower prio at this time. We have to add the ability to actually download files first |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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I would really like to see an password support because I'm only using private hubs, and without password support, I cannot enter them!
That's true, the most important thing is to get client working fine without any extra-features.
But when you're going to implement download queue, add "match queue" function from DC++ |
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Phase_
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I shouldn't be to hard to add. I can look into it later today.
It's suppose to be a DC++ port so our goal is to add as many features possible (that's supported by DC++). |
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Phase_
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| Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Hey,
Oktane:
I have added initial password support, but I have no idea if it's working. So it would be great if you could test it for me since I don't have a private hub to join
You could join us @ irc: #linuxdc++ @ irc.freenode.net as that should improve communication time |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Phase, I have to go for work now but I will try it when I get home.
Yeah, I could join that channel |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Phase, I'm sorry I haven't posted earlier because I've been busy as hell. But I tried it out, and it works!
It accepts my password, but it's still hashing my files so I cannot enter to a hub yet |
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