how to make best of a T1 connection

punter · Guru Joined: 25 Nov 2002 Posts: 506

I'm sure many of you have unlimited broadband (possibly T1) connections for your nternet access.

I'm wondering apart from listening to music radio stations, and multiplayer online games, what else can you do with your connection that is interestig ?

Smilez:) · n00b Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 58 Location: Edmonton

run web servers, mail server, counter-strike servers, transfer files from home to work at great speeds.

calr0x · Apprentice Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 244

Serve warez.

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hehehe...

LucaSpiller · Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject:

Porn, mirror the internet (

), more porn....

Also updating Gentoo without it taking a few days as it does for me would be one thing I would do. Ahhh, I can dream...
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Doomwookie · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:05 am Post subject:

Or an even worse vise than porn.....

Watching fansubed anime before it is licensed! There is always something to download, and you will quickly find the T1 speeds not enough...
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frameRATE · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 4:10 am Post subject:

if only I could get my ftp/apache/ssh to work!!!

my t1 is going to waste!
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codergeek42 · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 5:11 am Post subject:

If you have the available space and hardware, setup a public gentoo rsync/distfiles mirror. It will help the community alot.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/source_mirrors.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rsync.xml
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Bohemian · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:38 am Post subject:

How much are T(whatever) lines running now adays?

tsunam · Retired Dev Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 343

my problem is that i need more upload bandwidth. My down is fine..i'd be fine with 1.5 since all i grab is anime and play ut2004 etc when i'm not in school..or at work..or doing homework (not much time in otherwords). I'm constantly uploading though. I abuse my isp for 50 gigs a month as it stands.

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frameRATE · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 5:55 pm Post subject:

I was told our complex has t1, but we're getting 3Mb/s dowloads and about 1Mb up... so I guess I'll have to double check
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eeknay · Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:36 pm Post subject:

I've got a better connection. 1Gbit up/down
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Fitzsimmons · Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:50 pm Post subject:

Maybe run a Jabber/IRC server just for gentoo users? Perhaps get a gentoo-related domain name? IIRC, if you 'donate' the server/bandwidth to gentoo, you can be given a subdomain of gentoo.org

Disclaimer: This is only based upon my interpretations of an IRC conversation I had with a member of Gentoo-infra. If you want to be %100 sure about it, go and ask them yourself.

LucaSpiller · Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:09 pm Post subject:

Does anyone know how much T1 is now-a-days? A company here (UK) is doing 2mb ADSL broadband umetered* for £32 a month - the contention ration is 50:1 though, but I shouldn't think that would make too much of a difference.

*Its actually a pay as you go service, £14 minimum, then so much for every mb, but once it gets to £32 you are not charged any more but your service continues.
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Sphynxx · Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:18 pm Post subject:

For T1 rates, check out your preferred ISP. Very competitive rates with killer service can be obtained via www.speakeasy.net. (looked up the rates after I posted.. looks like 300-325 per month. The 325 has a lot of advantages, including no bandwidth restrictions.) I used to work for Earthlink. Although their residential service has gone to hell from outsourcing, they still handle their Dedicated department internally. Their T1 service is pretty good as well, but, be aware that anything you do through Earthlink isn't really their equipment. They lease a line from SBC, or Covad.. or whoever is in the area.

As far as the comment that a T3 is better than a T1.. sure. You get better up/down speeds, etc, etc, etc. However, what if something happens to your T3? Where's your backup? See.. a T3 costs a lot more than a T1 line. However.. if you want speed, reliability, and a network that isn't strangled when some moron with a backhoe decides to dig in the wrong spot, then you get dual T1 lines. One T1 from one ISP, the other from another.. it's called redundancy, a basic concept of network administration. The second concept that you need to realize is that at least 80% of your network traffic should remain internal. If you have thousands of machines going out and hitting particular sites every second, or minute, then why not build a cache farm? This is what Hughes has done with satellite. It has given them tons of saving in bandwidth cost as well as response time.

If you're unsure what I mean by a cache farm.. think of it this way. Your server farm goes out and queries the most used websites that your traffic is generated from. One machine is doing this, and keeping it in cache. Now.. 50 workstations request that site. Your server has it in cache. What you've just done is reduced your traffic to that site by 50 times.

Anyhow.. kind of off topic there. What do you do with a T1 line? Well.. the one I have access to does a little of all of the above.

Torrents amongst other things. I also use it for self education.. testing my knowledge of security, etc.

kashani · Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:38 pm Post subject:

We are now going to refer to the T1 as a DS-1 since you'd want a data services line, not 24 telephone lines.

A full DS-1 is 1.544 Mb/s and is full duplex. You get 1.5 up and 1.5 down and they do not affect each other. Pricing on a DS-1 can vary dramatically between services. Generally a DS-1 quote would consist of:

The local loop. This is the line the telco extends to your house. This can be anywhere from $100 to $1500 depending on where you live and where your ds-1 is going.
Router/port charge. Do you need to lease a router or have the router managed. $50-$300
Extra services. Pop accounts, news feeds, domain hosting, monitoring, etc.
Bandwidth.

As to the one DS-3 vs two DS-1 connections, it's not that simple. Who provides your copper? The local telco. Has your local telco trenched two sets of copper to your building? Probably not. Do both of the lines terminate at the same CO? Yes. Are you actually getting that much redunancy? Not as much as it appears one you start investigating the physical plant. Unless you can get two separate paths, two DS-1's are in the same boat with a single DS-3 most of the time.

A DS-3 tends to make better financial sense around the 4-6 T1 mark. You can also talk your DS-3 provider into a DSL backup line for about nothing if you're willing to do a 3-5 year contract.

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aman · Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject:

Download bandwidth is REALLY cheap now a days. Guaranteed upload speed is what is expensive. Where I work, San Francisco, CA, a full T1 (1.5Mb/s up/down) is $550-$600 a mo. A T3 is about $6000 a month right now, but that is 45Mb/s up/down. Lots of ISP's offer cheap plans with 6Mb/s download, but like 512kb/s upload. And you would be lucky to even get 512k at most times. Upload is more important to me now a days since I deal mostly with servers.
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