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mwiertz Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 88 Location: Selfkant, Germany
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: using mounted ntfs partition as a normal user??? |
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Hi,
I've been reading and googling a lot about this but didn't find the answer to the following problem:
I mounted one of the ntfs partitions on my disk the followwing way (output mount-command):
/dev/hdb7 on /mnt/f type ntfs (rw,gid=100,umask=0007)
so ls -l /mnt says:
drwxrwx--- 1 root users 4096 Sep 22 21:55 f
but although my user is in the users group it's not possible to write anyting into that f directory.
touch /mnt/f/test.txt returns:
touch: cannot touch `/mnt/f/test.txt': Permission denied
would be nice if someone could help me getting this fixed... thanx in advance |
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inode77 Veteran
Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 1303 Location: Heart of Europe
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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The kernel included ntfs driver doesn't provide write support by default.
It's quite dangerous to do and only a few very special operations should be done writable to a mounted ntfs partition.
So IMHO your system behaves as it should.
Use captive if you like to have ntfs write support as it seems you need.
http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ |
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mwiertz Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 88 Location: Selfkant, Germany
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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thanx for your reply
but... I especially compiled my kernel with the NTFS write-support enabled (it's 2.6.8-r4 kernel on amd64 btw)... so I expected it to work this way... what else would that option be for? |
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inode77 Veteran
Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 1303 Location: Heart of Europe
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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mwiertz wrote: | thanx for your reply
but... I especially compiled my kernel with the NTFS write-support enabled (it's 2.6.8-r4 kernel on amd64 btw)... so I expected it to work this way... what else would that option be for? |
IIRR it's only save to write with the ntfs driver to a ntfs partition if you "modify a file that already existed and you do not change it's size".
There are some very special situations when you wanna do that. Example is to have linux installation reside on a ntfs partition as a file, when it's not possible to create your own linux partition. |
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mwiertz Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 88 Location: Selfkant, Germany
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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OK...
in other words, the NTFS write is not ready to be used in my daily work... thought it would be a great way to share files between my xp and linux installs... have to look for something else I think...
any suggestions? (maybe the other direction - using ext3/reiserfs partitions under xp?)
thanx anyway |
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inode77 Veteran
Joined: 20 Jan 2004 Posts: 1303 Location: Heart of Europe
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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mwiertz wrote: | OK...
in other words, the NTFS write is not ready to be used in my daily work... thought it would be a great way to share files between my xp and linux installs... have to look for something else I think...
any suggestions? (maybe the other direction - using ext3/reiserfs partitions under xp?)
thanx anyway |
Use captive as mentioned earlier it's for full write support on ntfs, you just have to install it and use the captive driver instead the ntfs one.
And yes there are few programs capable to read ext2/3 under XP but I never tested one. Or you could create a vfat formated share partition. |
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syg00 l33t
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 907 Location: Brisbane, AUS
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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inode77 wrote: | Or you could create a vfat formated share artition. |
I also vote for this. Been doing it since I first tried Linux a few years back.
NTFS support is a "nicety" - and it's a moving target. I *really* wouldn't want to screw up an NTFS partition in my environment.
VFAT is well known and stable - just carve out a conveniently sized partition and clean it up occasionally. |
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Fitzsimmons Guru
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 415 Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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There are also ext2/3 and reiserfs read programs/drivers for windows, and one program has experimental (probably unsafe) write. I would also reccomend using vfat to share files, but I'll link you up with those ext/resier utilities anyway:
rfstool: read only reiserfs, commandline tool, worked for me, not the nicest interface though
Explore2fs: read and apperently write, never tested by me, GUI interface
EXT2IFS: makes ext2 drives mountable as readonly media in windows, as if they would look like any other readonly device in My Computer, etc. Never tested by me
Good luck |
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mwiertz Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 88 Location: Selfkant, Germany
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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thanx everyone,
think I'm gonna try getting it doen by vfat (fat32) or maybe ext2 (because of the vfat 4GB limitation) - is ext2 also limited - does anyone know? |
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Halcy0n Developer
Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 1682 Location: Freehold, NJ
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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mwiertz wrote: | thanx everyone,
think I'm gonna try getting it doen by vfat (fat32) or maybe ext2 (because of the vfat 4GB limitation) - is ext2 also limited - does anyone know? |
If you mean 4GB maximum file size, then ext2 is limited to 2GB for its maximum file size. _________________ Mark Loeser
http://www.halcy0n.com |
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mwiertz Tux's lil' helper
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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thanks, but what about the maximum partition size? |
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Halcy0n Developer
Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Posts: 1682 Location: Freehold, NJ
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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They both support up to 2TB. ext2 might support 4TB, but I don't remember, its atleast 2. _________________ Mark Loeser
http://www.halcy0n.com |
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mwiertz Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Jul 2003 Posts: 88 Location: Selfkant, Germany
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:37 am Post subject: |
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thank you again,
that means only the max filesize might be a problem for me (AV-editing and DVD-images)... |
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