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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:14 pm    Post subject: installing gentoo without an internet connection Reply with quote

ive got 2 questions. I am deployed in Iraq and I dont have the internet connection to use emerge. I tried to install with the gentoo live cd's but I couldnt get grub, hotplug, or anything. Is there a way to get these files without using emerge? I am trying to get as good a build as I can without it. I can use emerge if I can get the network settings to work right. The internet cafe uses static ip's so for example
if i use 10.10.10.27 subnet mask 255.255.255.224
my broadcast would be 10.10.10.31
the dns is 213.187.129.70
I can get it to hit the default gateway of .1 but I cannot get it to register the dns in order for me to get emerge to work... any ideas or helpful hints?
THANKS A LOT FOR ALL OF THE HELP

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taktykal_Gentoo,

You can get someone to downlaod the sources you need and mail them to you on CD. Then you copy thm to /usr/portage/distfiles. With the sources in place, emerge will not attempt downloads.

To find out what you need run
Code:
emerge <some_package> -pv
capture the output to a file.

You potental network settings for an internet cafe look a bit strange.
If you are joining in the cafe network you need to use their broadcast address, net mask and DNS IP address. You also need to ask for an IP address, if its all static. You must not use an IP thats already in use.

What you write is self consistant, just strange. It allows the use of at most 28 PCs on the network.

You can also wget the files in the internet cafe but would need them on CD to do the move.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: gentoo install in iraq Reply with quote

well that was the settings for the station im sitting at right now. We have 28 stations 14 with their computers 14 for personals. I entered that information in and all and couldnt get it to resolve when i tried to emerge. If I get the new distfiles off the gentoo site and the newest portage tree should I be good then?? I know I have done an install all the way to xfree and all without the internet before I just dont know why it isnt working anymore
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:53 pm    Post subject: gentoo install Reply with quote

plus if i had someone mail it to me it'd take like 2 or so months to get here heh... they convoy all of our mail to us.. once it hits kuwait..
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taktykal_Gentoo,

Which emerge fails ?
emerge sync uses the rsync port (530 ?) which may be blocked

Try the command
Code:
emerge-webrsync
which gets you the entire portage tree as a tarball without using rsync and its possibly blocked port.
emerge can then fetch sources via ftp and http in the normal way.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:46 pm    Post subject: installing gentoo networkless Reply with quote

well once again I cannot get any kernel sources. grub. hotplug nor anything else to finish my install. I am going down the guide step by step, using a stage3 install and everything. usually when I am networkless if i id emerge grub etc it would still work... but now I get the host name failure... if I am using the setup for networkless why is it still doing this for me? I am stuck at the exact point of chroot


I get to chroot and them BLAM I get hit in the head with a big boulder like the coyote.....
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taktykal_Gentoo,

Have you goy a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf ?
Try
Code:
ping 216.239.57.99

If that works, try
Code:
ping google.com
They are the same thing, one needs name resolution the other does not.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:03 pm    Post subject: gentoo install Reply with quote

well i put it in resolv.conf but it didnt want to work.. i couldnt even ping the ip for the dns server but i could hit the gateway was real odd.. so right now im trying to deal with what ive got and get the install done networkless....
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taktykal_Gentoo,

ping tests the link. is a command.

/etc/resolv.conf should contain a line like
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nameserver <ip address of nameserver>

Your gateway address may work too.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i know it did... my concern is why i cannot get past chroot right now on my install after doing a stage3 install.... i cannot get genkernel gentoo-sources grub hotplug nor anything...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking at my home network setup and my dns is the same as my gateway
Code:

 cat /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 192.168.2.1
SO
echo "nameserver 10.10.10.31" >>/etc/resolv.conf

You might try that. If that doesnt work is anybody in there whos out on the net ? If so and if theyll allow you , this is w2000 and earlier I dont know xp, Start > Run > "cmd". that should give a command window, then run" ipconfig /all" and that will show how they are setup.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well im a network admin out here so I got it configured with the right addresses... i dont know why it would hit the gateway but wouldnt hit the dns server..... anyone got an idea on why i wouldnt be able to complete the networkless install??
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you doing a package or GRP install? If so see this thread for more info and links !!! CATEGORY info missing from info chunk, aborting..
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