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Hello sirs,
Can anyone recomend me a fast and stable filesystem for mainly for storing big files?
Im going to buy a new hard disk and im going to do a 200gb partition on it and dont know which filesystem i should use.
In big files i mean 700 mb or bigger files.
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I'm using ext3 for storage and Reiser4 for system. But I'm thinking to move 100% Reiser4 user (except /boot)
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For really big files I would recommend XFS. However, I am recommending this objectively, as discussing warez/illegal material should not be done on these forums.
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I know that isnt like the best place to ask this, but its the only one i think ill have an answer.
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You're right, this is not the best place for asking about such things, well about the filesystem for warez.
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Im thinking about reiser4 too, mainly becase all ive been reading about it sounds good, but i dont know if its stable enough to keep such big files.
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I edited the post a bit, sorry if i did something wrong. if you want you guys can delete it then.
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Whats with you ppl and warez, dammit. I was really interested in knowing which was the best.
You see, and this is a legit use, I user VMWare to run windows for work (its the tools!) , and those files go way over 700mb. Usually in the 5-7gb range just to be safe.
Now that *I* have a legit use, which one is the best?
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| abacker wrote: | | Whats with you ppl and warez, dammit. |
If we discuss 'warez' and other illegal/illicit activities, then that means sooner or later, Gentoo as a distro and team of users/developers is going to get in a lot of trouble, which would be a Very Bad Thing(tm).
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I would suggesting speaking with the mods or admins if you have questions or trouble complying with this. 
| Quote: | I was really interested in knowing which was the best. You see, and this is a legit use, I user VMWare to run windows for work (its the tools!) , and those files go way over 700mb. Usually in the 5-7gb range just to be safe.
Now that *I* have a legit use, which one is the best?
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Now that we are discussing legitimate uses for this filesystem, I will happily say that, imo, XFS is excellent at handling very large files.
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So i think im going to do a XFS partition cause, it looks good for big files, i was thinking about reiserfs4 but if xfs is better for this, and is better tested i think im gonna stick with it then 
Thanks for the replys.
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By the way, which brand of hard disk you recomend? i want a 200gb IDE, the options are Seagate, Maxstore and Western Digital.
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Hmmm, if each file that youre working with is 5-7G and your hdd is 200GB youre going to run out of space purty quick.
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I have 5 x Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 drives in my Linux box and one in Windows box (my parents computer). Western Digital is good too. I don't have any experience with Seagate so hard to say.
By the way, gnuageux, falso didn't said anything about 5-7 GB files, abacker did
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Ive never had a problem with any of my Western Digital disks
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reiserfs4, just do some reading and take a look at some benchmarks and you will see
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Um, I don't see the point when talking about big filesizes it must automatically mean warez.
I believe some people exaggerate quite a bit when it comes to stuff like this.
I don't think this thread is illegal by law (even by american law ^^). |
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| Fix-85 wrote: | Um, I don't see the point when talking about big filesizes it must automatically mean warez.
I believe some people exaggerate quite a bit when it comes to stuff like this.
I don't think this thread is illegal by law (even by american law ^^). |
I didn't see the first post but I guess the thread starter must have mentioned warez. The first few replies must have cautioned him and he edited the post to comply with forum rules.
I am also very interested in knowing which FS is best. I have been using good old ext3 up till now. I agree Western Digital is generally very good. For those of you who want to find out which HDD is best for you, go to StorageReview.com. They have large-scale reliability and performance survey taken by users. Definitely something to look at if you want to buy a HDD.
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| amiatrome wrote: | | Fix-85 wrote: | Um, I don't see the point when talking about big filesizes it must automatically mean warez.
I believe some people exaggerate quite a bit when it comes to stuff like this.
I don't think this thread is illegal by law (even by american law ^^). |
I didn't see the first post but I guess the thread starter must have mentioned warez. The first few replies must have cautioned him and he edited the post to comply with forum rules.
I am also very interested in knowing which FS is best. I have been using good old ext3 up till now. I agree Western Digital is generally very good. For those of you who want to find out which HDD is best for you, go to StorageReview.com. They have large-scale reliability and performance survey taken by users. Definitely something to look at if you want to buy a HDD. |
Here's a quick synopsis of what file systems are good for what, at least as I understand them:
ext2 - Stable, Low CPU Load
ext3 - Same as above.
resier - Good for small files (Configs, small docs) Average all around. High CPU load. Stable.
xfs - Good for larger files. Stable-ish. Corruption issues when not properly unmounted.
resier4 - Pretty much kicks ass. Not ultra-stable yet, but good enough.
If this is only for storage of large files that you can bear to lose, XFS or Reiser4, else, stick with Resier or Ext3. |
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I've gone insane, I'm moving all my ext-3 partitions to Reiser4! (almost one terabyte)
Reiser4 really pwnz j00! 
And it's stable enough. |
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For large files go with the original XFS patchset from SGI on a 2.4.20 kernel (make sure to patch for the evil ptrace & co vulnerabilities). There's no question about it. I've got years of experience in large scale system administration behind me and have yet to see data loss due to XFS (and not due to careless rm and the like).
Get the necessary patches from http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/patchlist.html
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