New Xorg and lucidatypewriter font is gone?

_savage · Guru Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 308 Location: Redmond, WA

Hello,

I recently emerged the new Xorg, which broke xemacs/ddd/xpdf and applications that require motif. Fixed that, and had to emerge xemacs etc anew. The problem is that the lucida typewriter font is gone now?? It was my fav font for all the apps :-(

It's gone and I can't find a package that brings it over into the system again.

Does anybody know how I can install it (again)? The xorg.conf file uses the same font path settings, so I assume that the problem isn't there...

Thanks heaps,
Jens
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fctk · Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:04 pm Post subject:

bring the font file and install it. http://freedesktop.org/~xorg/X11R6.7.0/doc/fonts2.html

_savage · Guru Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 308 Location: Redmond, WA

I read it, but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do to fix my problem? :oops:

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_savage · Guru Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 308 Location: Redmond, WA

I re-emerged it with USE="bitmap-fonts" but it didn't help. Interestingly, I opened a gnome-terminal which I set up ages ago with lucidatypewriter, and it uses lucida!? But then, when I open xemacs, lucida misses from the Options menu; same with ddd: I can't set it up there.

I'm lost...
Jens

PS: those are the kind of errors that I keep getting

fctk · Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:46 pm Post subject:

is lucida present in xfontselect?

_savage · Guru Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 308 Location: Redmond, WA

It is in "xfontsel", yes....
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JaguarIV · Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:34 pm Post subject:

I am having the same problem. Just upgraded xorg to 6.8.0-r1. ddd can't find lucidatypewriter. It appears in the "famly" list in xfontsel, but if I select it, no characters are shown in the xfontsel preview area. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks!
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hepta_sean · Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:53 pm Post subject:

I think I'm having a related problem: Some Java apps complain about the following:

_savage · Guru Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 308 Location: Redmond, WA

Oh sheesh yes, I have those all over the place... Did I mention that gnome-terminal does have access to "lucidatypewriter" while xemacs/ddd can't find it?

I am lost...
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Scottaroo · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:26 am Post subject: LucidiaTypewriter

Greetings:

I'm having trouble with this too. I need the font because I have some OLD commercial software that wants that font PERIOD.

Anyway, it looks like the new stuff from x.org has the font, but that they have changed the character set from ISO8859 (western) to ISO10646 (unicode). Why they would stop shipping 8859 I don't know, but that's what it looks like. I've downloaded the x.org source for 6.7 and am compiling that. I'm going to try yanking the fonts that I need out of that and dropping them into my fonts folder.

If I can make it work, I'll post the results here.
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Scottaroo · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:12 pm Post subject: Success

Greetings:

Here's what I did to get the LucidaTypewriter fonts that I needed back. I'm not an X Font expert, so there may be a better way to do this: The problem was that X.org 6.8 seems to install only ISO10646 (unicode) fonts while many apps are specifying ISO8859 (western) in their font requests. Basically, I downloaded the X.org 6.7 release, built it, and installed its ISO8859 fonts.

Downloaded the source for x.org 6.7 from x.org at:
http://www.x.org/pub/X11R6.7/tars/

I picked up all 7 files because I didn't know which one(s) I really needed and didn't want to fool around with it.

I unpacked the source into my home folder and built it. I didn't do this as root because I was afraid of screwing up my current X install:

_savage · Guru Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 308 Location: Redmond, WA

I wonder if there is a configure or compile option to build the ISO font files... Have you checked that? Just curious (and, frankly, lazy) ;-)

But thanks heaps for the post!
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hepta_sean · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: Success

Hello!

First of all, many thanks for the tip.

I think I found out, how to do that without building the complete X11R6.7:

aethyr · Veteran Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Posts: 1085 Location: NYC

I don't use xorg, but someone here should file a bug on this at Gentoo's bugzilla (or upstream if you're more technically inclined). At the very least, a Gentoo dev should then be able to bring this up to the xorg developers if it is a real problem (which it seems like it is, judging by the posts here).

Scottaroo · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:19 pm Post subject: Is it a bug?

Greetings aethyr:

I'm not sure that it's a bug in xorg. When a program asks for a font it can specify the charset that it wants, or just let the font server pick one. The new charsets (ISO10646) have all of the glyphs that the older ones (ISO8859) did, so there is no reason that any program would have to use 8859 instead of 10646. If the program that I'm using would have simply specified LucidaTypewriter 12 point, it would have worked just fine. It was because of its insistance on 8859 that it failed. Additionally, it wouldn't allow me to change what it was asking for.

Maybe asking for an additional fonts-only package would be appropriate. The only package that I had trouble with was a proprietary, binary-only package. I know that some other folks had issues with terminal and such, but I wonder if a more appropriate fix would be to fix the broken apps instead of forcing xorg to be backwards compatible forever.

Anyone else have any ideas?
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Scottaroo · Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:12 pm Post subject:

I am only using the 100dpi fonts. If you want both the 75 and 100 dpi fonts, then you would run those commands on both directories.
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maystorm · Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:14 pm Post subject:

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maystorm · Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:27 pm Post subject:

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maystorm · Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:03 am Post subject:

I've removed ~/.java/ (/etc/.java/ or /etc/java/ were not existing anyway). Unfortunately, this didn't help.

I'm relying on a Java trading software, and this has not only become a cosmetic issue since some text information is almost unreadable. Here an example:

http://img109.exs.cx/img109/2453/shot_2004-11-26_09-53-45.png

All help/hints/etc really appreciated!
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vktgz · Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:34 pm Post subject:

LucidaBright, LucidaSans and LucidaTypewriter fonts in TrueType format are included in blackdown-jre. copy them from blackdown-jre/lib/fonts to /usr/share/fonts/TTF anr run fc-cache -fv

maystorm · Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:54 pm Post subject:

@vktgz:

Unfortunately, this doesn't help. Thanx anyway.
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