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mlsfit138
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| Jengu wrote: | | mlsfit138 wrote: | | I just got Doom 3 for Christmas and am wondering if I shouldn't open the box. Where do I find these "linux binaries"? Are they on the installation disk? |
Download them right here
Seriously, you download them. They are not in the box. |
Oops! I had googled for it, and found lots of information on the demo version. I guess I skimmed over too quickly, because I didn't see the part about copying the info from your Win32 install disks to the demo install. The section I needed was "Patch Installation Instructions" which I ignored because I thought they were bug fixes or something.
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racoontje
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| Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| How can you prelink the Doom3 libs? |
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DFanick
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:59 pm Post subject: More FPS |
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Logging in with "failsafe terminal" instead of gnome, kde, etc. also makes games run enormously faster.
You don't have any windowmanger, scripts etc. loaded - but for games you won't need it. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:45 am Post subject: |
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DFanick
What do you mean with failsave terminal ?
In other words: Would i gain performance if i fire up xdm as a window manager instead of kdm?
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DFanick
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sulu
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Aha, nice to know if needed.
But on my box Doom3 runs reasonable well.
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DFanick
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:50 am Post subject: speedup |
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For me it is a GREAT performance-boost on a p4, 3Ghz, 756mb and GeforceFX5200 (64mb).
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Arainach
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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NVIDIA cards, it's right up there. ATI, it sucks. Royally. I had to drop from 1280x1024 High Detail all settings on (which won't even RUN anymore on the ATI drivers - It Segfaults out) to 1152x864 Medium Detail most settings off. I'm not particularly happy about that.
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Aynjell
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Not to be a linux whore, but I play Doom 3 in linux at Ultra and with 16X AA. In windows, I play on High. By the way, both are ~30-60 Fps consistently, but it does lag in some situations, point is, in both conditions it's playable and detail wise, I see no real difference. 
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foxx1337
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| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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i get ~1% worse performance in gentoo with high quality @ 1280 x 1024 AA 2x
but if i push it further, on gentoo the boost goes to about + 10% at 1600x1200 AA 2x
there is a problem with the nvidia drivers tho: if i leave the aa and aniso levels application controlled, doom or quake (no sound there) remain with antialiasing turned off regardless of what i set in doom. the only way to change antialiasing is through nvidia-settings. |
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Aynjell
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Hrm, maybe that'd be why, eh? Oh well, I rather enjoy Ultra quality in linux, even still. 
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jzono1
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timedemo demo1 usecache could possibly remove freezes 
Worked for me |
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The next moves require some console playing and playing with the
configurational files. You can access the console by pressing the
combination CTRL+ALT+TILDE(~). With the console you can literally
tweak every setting in the game. With it you can set the usage of the
used memory or even set if the guns will actually fire. There are a
lot of options, but only a few of them make the game faster, but more
uglier. The first thing you need to do is to shut down the antistrophic
filtering, you can do that by typing in ge_anisotropy 1. With this the
High quality will also be playable on machines that use Ati Radeon
9800 Pro. Now type in seta image_useCache 1 which will enable buffering,
and now type in seta image_cacheMegsXX, while XX is the number which
you get by quartering your system memory, for example if your machine
has 512MB of ram, you will set 128, if your machine has 1024mb of ram,
you will set the number to 256 and so on. Now, type in
seta image_cacheMinK X, where the X is the eighth of the previous value
divided with 1024 (for example if the number is 128, the x would be
16384). You can also set bilinear texture filtering by typing in
seta image_filter GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST. You probably won't want
to type in these setting every time you restart Doom III, so the
wisest thing is to create a configurational file. Type in all these
setting (each one in its own line) and save them as autoexec.cfg in
the Doom III\Base directory.
Here are some configurational files that you can use:
64MB Video-Cards:
seta image_usePrecompressedTextures "1"
seta image_useCompression "1"
seta image_downSizeLimit "256"
seta image_ignoreHighQuality "1"
seta image_downSizeBumpLimit "256"
seta image_downSizeSpecularLimit "64"
seta image_downSizeBump "1"
seta image_downSizeSpecular "1"
seta image_downSize "1"
seta image_forceDownSize "1"
seta image_roundDown "1"
seta image_lodbias "0"
seta r_preload "1"
seta r_useCachedDynamicModels "1"
seta r_skipBump "0"
seta r_skipPostProcess "0"
seta r_skipParticles "0"
seta r_skipSpecular "0"
seta r_skipNewAmbient "1"
seta r_multiSamples "0"
seta r_shadows "0"
seta r_useOptimizedShadows "1"
seta r_useTurboShadow "1"
seta g_projectilelights "1"
seta g_bloodEffects "1"
seta g_decals "0"
seta g_showBrass "0"
seta g_muzzleFlash "1"
seta g_doublevision "0"
seta g_showPlayerShadow "0"
seta image_anisotropy "1"
seta image_filter "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST"
128MB Video-Cards:
seta image_usePrecompressedTextures "1"
seta image_useCompression "1"
seta image_downSizeLimit "512"
seta image_ignoreHighQuality "1"
seta image_downSizeBumpLimit "512"
seta image_downSizeSpecularLimit "128"
seta image_downSizeBump "1"
seta image_downSizeSpecular "1"
seta image_downSize "1"
seta image_forceDownSize "1"
seta image_roundDown "1"
seta image_lodbias "0"
seta r_preload "1"
seta r_useCachedDynamicModels "1"
seta r_skipBump "0"
seta r_skipPostProcess "0"
seta r_skipParticles "0"
seta r_skipSpecular "0"
seta r_skipNewAmbient "1"
seta r_multiSamples "0"
seta r_shadows "0"
seta r_useOptimizedShadows "1"
seta r_useTurboShadow "1"
seta g_projectilelights "1"
seta g_bloodEffects "1"
seta g_decals "0"
seta g_showBrass "0"
seta g_muzzleFlash "1"
seta g_doublevision "0"
seta g_showPlayerShadow "0"
seta image_anisotropy "1"
seta image_filter "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST"
256MB Video-Cards:
seta image_usePrecompressedTextures "1"
seta image_useCompression "1"
seta image_downSizeLimit "1024"
seta image_ignoreHighQuality "1"
seta image_downSizeBumpLimit "1024"
seta image_downSizeSpecularLimit "256"
seta image_downSizeBump "1"
seta image_downSizeSpecular "1"
seta image_downSize "1"
seta image_forceDownSize "1"
seta image_roundDown "1"
seta image_lodbias "0"
seta r_preload "1"
seta r_useCachedDynamicModels "1"
seta r_skipBump "0"
seta r_skipPostProcess "0"
seta r_skipParticles "0"
seta r_skipSpecular "0"
seta r_skipNewAmbient "1"
seta r_multiSamples "0"
seta r_shadows "0" //NOTE
seta r_useOptimizedShadows "1"
seta r_useTurboShadow "1"
seta g_projectilelights "1"
seta g_bloodEffects "1"
seta g_decals "0"
seta g_showBrass "0"
seta g_muzzleFlash "1"
seta g_doublevision "0"
seta g_showPlayerShadow "0"
seta image_anisotropy "1"
seta image_filter "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST"
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ok, just in case anyone doesnt want to go through and change everything themselves. This is a fair compramise between gfx and performance, the only things that it takes away that I would argue are key parts are the decals, brass, doublevision, playershadow, and skipping the new ambient (disables col glass effect and really really freakin schweet bling bling heat wave fx on rocket explosions, etc). However the skip new ambient can make an incredible difference when ur in a room with a lot of glass in it. These optimizations gave me a 20 fps boost, went from 35-40 to 60-63 in timedemo 1, also buying a new mobo (nf7-s2) gave me 10 more fps. Now because of the new mobo I'd like some help on what to do. I use 3 512 ddr400 stix, but I heard from someone that I am "neutering my computer" by disabling a special optimisation whn there are only 2 stix of ram on the nf7-s2. Do you think that it would increase performance greatly if I sacrafices 512 megs of ram to get whatever that extra optimization is? |
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nadir-san
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:51 am Post subject: Some Questions. |
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OK can someone please help me clarify some stuff
1) I heard somewhere that linux actually uses higher quality testures in Ultra mode, is this correct ?
3) Has anyone noticed that AMD64 based systems seem to perform whay worse in linux.
2) SSE2 optimisation are not in the linux binaries , correct ? will they be soon?
also we recently tried installing and running Doom3 on a Toshiba laptop - pentiumm 2.8 Ghz , nvidia mx 440, it definately runs faster in Linux, I might be able tog et bench results
And Finally... If it performes better in linux, why then are the linux minium requirements so much lower on the box.
btw, that wine comparison vs native, was one of the dumbest things ever posted on these forums. |
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edudlive
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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The higher end graphics card see a huge difference in Windows and Linux, the difference being to Window's advantage. Middle end graphics cards see almost identical performance in both.
An interesting note to my comment is that while my ATI card (9600 Pro) IS a lot slower than it is in Windows, but yet Doom3 has hardly any difference (runs at same settings and resolution as Windows) |
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edudlive
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Some Questions. |
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| nadir-san wrote: |
btw, that wine comparison vs native, was one of the dumbest things ever posted on these forums. |
Actually its a good tool for comparing where the WINE/Cedega Projects are at in comparison to native games or Windows games. |
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thewally
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| Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Doom run much faster in Linux than in M$ OS.
56 VS. 35 FPS!!! |
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