Firefox > 1.0.4

brims · Guru Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 492 Location: Arizona

I'm posting here because the Mozilla Foundation really screwed up and anything above 1.0.4 shouldn't be supported by Gentoo. Firefox after 1.0.4 just destroyed my extensions. Anybody know why we are seeing such bad products from the Mozilla Foundation? I think there needs to be a release to undo all they did in 1.0.5 and 1.0.6. I downloaded the 1.0.4 ebuild and tried installing it, but it gives me a couple of errors:

yabbadabbadont · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:49 pm Post subject:

EDIT: 1.0.6 is the only binary ebuild in portage for firefox.

The new versions were to plug security holes. As I understand it, part of that required changing the interfaces to extensions, hence your problems. If you are having trouble with older version ebuilds, you might try the binary ebuild version instead. e.g. mozilla-firefox-bin-1.0.4

brims · Guru Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 492 Location: Arizona

Oh, so basically we have to wait for the extension people to get up to speed? Great.

yabbadabbadont · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject:

Pretty much. If you have an extension you can't live without, start bugging the developer to update it...

martin.k · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: Sad but true

I must admit that there is something wrong with firefox > 1.0.4 both on win and linux machines.
I just downgraded all my desktops at work from 1.0.6 to 1.0.4, which seems to be the last usable

FF 1.0.6 is slower than 1.0.4 and less stable.
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yabbadabbadont · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject:

I'm using mozilla-firefox-bin-1.0.6-r2 and haven't had any problems or noticed any slow-downs.
I only have one extension installed though.

brims · Guru Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 492 Location: Arizona

I got a friend with the same machine as mine, and similar use/cflags to make a binary for me. Untill everything works again I will only be using 1.0.4.

Archangel1 · Veteran Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Posts: 1212 Location: Work

I haven't had any issues with 1.06.
1.05 was known to destroy extensions, which is why they released 1.06 so shortly afterwards.

I haven't noticed any stability problems though - admittedly I am using a localised ebuild, which may be subtly different (although I doubt it).
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kiel.wells · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 97

I'm using the latest release of ~amd64 firefox, and have had 0 problems with any extensions or anything...
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AaronPPC · Guru Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 522 Location: Tucson, AZ

I have not had any problems with 1.0.6 here. All my extensions work and it hasn't crashed once.
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brims · Guru Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 492 Location: Arizona

The posts saying you're copies of 1.0.6 are working don't help at all. For me that version doesn't work, so your copy working isn't going to allow me to use the updated version of Firefox.

yabbadabbadont · Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:46 am Post subject:

Good point.

Perhaps it is only one or two of your installed extensions that are causing the issues. Have you tried disabling all of the installed extensions and seeing if you still have instability issues? If so, then an older version is your only choice. If not, enable one extension at a time until Firefox becomes unstable. Then you can decide if that extension is worth using a version of Firefox that contains security holes. (You will also know which extension writer to bug for an updated version)

brims · Guru Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 492 Location: Arizona

All I know is Firefox is way more secure than IE, and I'm on a Linux machine as a regular user. I'll stick with the older version of Firefox. If the machine gets comprimised, I have the install disk somewhere around here.

Archangel1 · Veteran Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Posts: 1212 Location: Work

brot · Guru Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 322

The new version _should_ work everywhere. The 1.5 release was kind of broken, but that was fixed (very fast) with releasing 1.6 .

www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r4

works very well here. Maybe lowering your cflags helps? (on my machine: CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -funit-at-a-time -pipe"

brims · Guru Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 492 Location: Arizona

yngwin · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject:

I use Deer Park alpha 2 and it's behaving very good, very stable for an alpha. I also get most (but not all) extensions to work on this.
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brims · Guru Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 492 Location: Arizona

Sounds like a game, and I couldn't figure out why you'd be talking about a game. I'd like to try that out, but I don't like installing third party software because I get all these stray files on my system from the install. I'll wait for 1.5 to be officially released.

Archangel1 · Veteran Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Posts: 1212 Location: Work

Dlareh · Advocate Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 2102

Firefox has been steadily decreasing in stability since 0.7 and 0.8 or so. It's very sad.

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yngwin · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:36 pm Post subject:

brims · Guru Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 492 Location: Arizona

Dlareh · Advocate Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Posts: 2102

I can't afford to use any extentions anymore. That way the blame for the crashes is squarely on the mozilla folks.

I have used at least five DIFFERENT machines on which IE 6.0 has been more stable than firefox 0.9+. Doesn't matter whether it's under windows or linux. Even firefox on knoppix crashes. It happens more often when I visit complex pages, which work fine in all other browsers. http://anandtech.com is one of the more extreme examples... sometimes firefox 0.9+ will just crash instantly when it's loaded yet it works fine in previous versions and mozilla proper.

yabbadabbadont · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:29 pm Post subject:

That is a pretty neat site. Thanks for the link.

By the way, I had no problem with the site at all.
Could be because I have java, javascript, and cookies disabled.
I'll try turning on various things and see what happens.